Maqabane Yet again we are denying ourselves and other in this forum an opportunity to get a clear understanding of this Dalai Lama issue. I think the issue here is not SACP or the Allaance, this is about our country consistancy in as far as its foriegn policy. Lately we have been going with the wind without a clear stand point and decisiveness on international relations issues. Our foreign policy has been found wanting in a number of times, Dalai Lama, Libya, Zimbabwe, Swaziland to mention just a few. After all these instances there questions that come to my mind are as follows: Do we realy have a foreign policy that the very same International Relations Minister and his officials understand? Do we as a country know exactly where do we stand in issues related to above mentioned countries and other countries of similar nature? What kind of country do we realy want to be, do we want to stand on our own and pronounce on our own policies as a sovereign country or do we want to dance to someone else's tune? Who are we realy and what do we stand for and do we realy practice what we preach? I think those are issues that we need to discuss rather than continue to throw insults at the elders and each other, that is not the level off intellect one would expect from a forum of this nature. We have seen people insulting elders and others and look where it got them. We need to discuss issues off national interest linking them with the political and economical state of affairs and ideologies we believe in, not forgetting a refference to the history. Masixoxeni Maqabane singathukani.
________________________________ From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Dalai Lama Comrade Moses ka Moyo, newspaper editor, you re-appear with a new address, but your disinforming habits have not changed. If you have information that the government "pronounced a refusal" of a visa for the Dalai Lama, please show it. What we have so far is only that the Dalai Lama withdrew his application for a visa. Although "the ANC" is not a party in this matter, it has been furiously denounced by Bishop Tutu. "The ANC" includes me and I presume you as well. What did we do? We don't issue visas. The SACP is also not a party in this matter, but we can note that the same Bishop Tutu, like the Dalai Lama, is a lifetime anti-communist. I dare say that Tutu's real problem with the ANC is that it is allied to the SACP. Tutu's desire to ostracise the communists does not look like it is going to be satisfied in his lifetime and I personally think that is why Tutu is so crazy with anger on his 80th birthday. Tutu is not, like Abraham was when he died, "satisfied with life". It is not a pretty sight. I don't think, as Malesela Maleka once said, that the SACP (or the YCL for that matter) needs to make a statement every time a fly passes. If it does issue a statement in this case, then it might like to mention how many wars that the bogus holy-man Dalai has blessed. The Afghanistan war is just fine with him. The Iraq war was great from his point of view. I suppose from what Tutu was saying, that they are both loving the Libyan war of recolonisation, too. Probably they have a few more war-blessings up the sleeves of their clerical robes. Humbugs! VC On 5 October 2011 07:57, Moses Moyo <[email protected]> wrote: Cde Domza > > >Morning ,what is the Pro-communist stance on the denial of the Visa for the >Dalai Lama. > > >Did government have to wait till the last minute to pronounce its refusal ? > > >will the Party and YCL issue a statement on where they lean on this matter > > > >-- >You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this >message. >You can visit the group WEB SITE at >http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, >pages, files and membership. >To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . >You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put >anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this >address (repeat): [email protected] . > -- The Communist University Blog is at: http://domza.blogspot.com/ Mail Subscription: http://groups.google.com/group/Communist-University/ CU Site for downloads: https://sites.google.com/site/communistuniversity/ The CU Africa blog is at: http://cuafrica.blogspot.com/ (Subscribe here) The SADTU PolEd blog is: http://sadtu-pol-ed.blogspot.com/ (Subscribe here) The old CU site is: http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ Subscription/unsubscribing difficulties? Mail [email protected] -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
