Cdes, this is a total madness! At this moment i think cdes must stand as a unity and resolve all the challenges together.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Gugu Ndima <[email protected]> wrote: > what is "elonyukile"..??? > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:21 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> But lamacomrade why maarn enyolukile??? >> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *matankana mothapo <[email protected]> >> *Sender: *[email protected] >> *Date: *Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:08:16 +0200 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Lamola + Floyd vs. Mabe + Magaqa in >> ANCYL succession battle >> >> >> *Very interesting. The Milk bowl has fallen and the cats are fighting. >> This is the problem of greedyness and demagogues. >> >> Socialism or Heaven >> >> Matankana Mothapo >> >> * >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:06 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> interesting >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >>> *Sender: *[email protected] >>> *Date: *Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:09:08 +0200 >>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >>> *Subject: *[YCLSA Discussion] Lamola + Floyd vs. Mabe + Magaqa in ANCYL >>> succession battle >>> >>> >>> [image: The Star] >>> >>> >>> *Succession battle rages at ANCYL* >>> **** >>> *****Fear and loathing is the order of the day* >>> >>> * >>> * >>> *Michelle Pietersen, The Star, Johannesburg, 16 November 2011* >>> >>> ****While the ANC Youth League is to respond on Wednesday to the ANC’s >>> sanctions on members of its national executive, its president’s grip on >>> power is understood to be slipping as a succession battle rages in its top >>> ranks.**** >>> >>> ****Julius Malema is said to be in a state of paranoia, and his >>> lieutenant, Floyd Shivambu, intensifying divisions by secretly pushing a >>> campaign for deputy youth league president Ronald Lamola to take over from >>> Malema when his reign ends. Many youth members and leaders believe this >>> will happen sooner rather than later.**** >>> >>> ****“Julius is vulnerable (and) does not know who to trust. He is >>> losing his mind trying to figure out who is against him and who is for >>> him,” an ANC source said.**** >>> >>> ****Divisions in the league were exposed when the ANC announced that >>> its leaders had been found guilty of contravening the party’s constitution. >>> **** >>> >>> ****The announcement that Malema was being suspended for five years and >>> Shivambu for three sparked a frenzy among league leaders as they moved to >>> secure their positions, in the event an appeal failed.**** >>> >>> ****The league is expected to show a united front on Wednesday when it >>> officially announces its fightback campaign, but it is understood that not >>> all of the young lions are convinced that Malema is worth the fight.**** >>> >>> ****Following their emergency meeting at the weekend, ANCYL national >>> executive committee (NEC) members said the league leaders, for the sake of >>> unity, would rally publicly behind Malema.**** >>> >>> ****Some have expressed undying support for Malema and his co-accused, >>> while others have said that efforts to save him are futile, with plans in >>> the making for a future without him.**** >>> >>> ****Some national youth leaders have said privately that Malema and his >>> co-accused should not appeal against their sentences and that, for the sake >>> of the organisation, Malema should be “sacrificed”.**** >>> >>> ****One NEC member described Malema’s attempt to save his political >>> skin as a “dead horse giving its last kick”.**** >>> >>> ****The consensus was that it was too little, too late for Malema, who >>> was known to have ruled the league with an iron fist, making many enemies >>> in doing so.**** >>> >>> ****Fear and loathing are the order of the day, with the top five >>> officials at each others' throats, insiders say.**** >>> >>> ****It appears, however, that Lamola and youth league treasurer Pule >>> Mabe are to face off for the top job.**** >>> >>> ****Shivambu, ANC insiders have said, is waging a campaign against Mabe >>> in a bid to propel Lamola into the top position. “(Shivambu) will want to >>> rule from the grave and he will find Ronald useful in his personal >>> business.”**** >>> >>> ****Shivambu’s ambitions of becoming youth league secretary-general >>> were thwarted earlier this year when delegates elected Sindiso Magaqa.** >>> ** >>> >>> ****Magaqa was sanctioned by the ANC’s national disciplinary committee >>> for disparaging remarks he made about Public Enterprises Minister Malusi >>> Gigaba and ordered to apologise publicly to the minister within five days >>> of the ruling.**** >>> >>> ****He has not done so because he intends appealing, which he must do >>> within 13 days of the ANC national disciplinary committee’s announcement of >>> the verdict.**** >>> >>> ****Shivambu’s campaign against Mabe, a league source said, was aimed >>> at casting aspersions on his integrity in the media, and to portray him as >>> “power hungry” to the branches – who, in the event that the fight comes >>> down to a special elective conference, would hold the key to the youth >>> league throne.**** >>> >>> ****But an ANC source said Lamola was a double agent who pretended to >>> support Malema and oppose President Jacob Zuma, whereas in his home >>> province of Mpumalanga he was known to support Zuma for a second term, and >>> the province’s premier, David Mabuza, a known Zuma ally, for re-election. >>> **** >>> >>> ****Lamola, however, said he was a national leader and did not play on >>> the provincial political fields.**** >>> >>> ****He laughed off suggestions that he was a double agent.**** >>> >>> ****Mabe is seen by most members as the logical replacement for Malema >>> because of his political seniority over Lamola.**** >>> >>> ****Lamola said on Tuesday there was no secret campaign to position >>> himself as Malema’s heir apparent.**** >>> >>> ****However, the youth league’s constitution dictates that, as deputy, >>> Lamola steps in as acting leader of the league if its president is unable >>> to fulfil the role.**** >>> >>> ****Talks are under way in anti-Malema camps about bringing a vote of >>> no confidence against the youth league leadership.**** >>> >>> ****Lamola denied weekend press reports that he’d had to be restrained >>> from assaulting Mabe when the sanctions were announced.**** >>> >>> ****The reports said Lamola had accused Mabe of being a sell-out for >>> saying they should not appeal the verdicts and they had almost come to >>> blows. But those in Mabe’s camp said the allegation was an orchestrated >>> attempt to discredit the treasurer general, a close ally of Malema.**** >>> >>> ****Lamola said: “It’s not true (succession war is raging). I don’t >>> know where it comes from. Malema… will remain the leader until the next >>> elective conference. All of us are going to appeal. The league is intact >>> and not demoralised. The mood is high, we have no problems.” - Political >>> Bureau >>> * >>> >>> * >>> *From: >>> http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/succession-battle-rages-at-ancyl-1.1179256?showComments=true >>> * >>> >>> ** >>> ** >>> ** >>> >>> ** >>> ** >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >>> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >>> to this message. >>> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >>> options, pages, files and membership. >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >>> [email protected] . 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