But guys, we can't always say no its media creating this or that... These allegations are "human thought" to me and you can't take them away from politicians...
We know these tendencies exist in politics so let's not act as if they r new... Come on guys... Its nature for these people to think outside the box of malema...lol.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:47:29 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Lamola + Floyd vs. Mabe + Magaqa in ANCYL succession battle I wonder why we act the way we do. Is this story True? We are already making unfortunate statements, calling people name based on unproven allegations or personal speculation. Why is that people are inconsistent. When it suite one "the media is trying to sow division, they lie to sell papers" and we say something different on other instances where we do not know the facts. Just a question I can't seem to answer. Care to help comrades. Regards. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: matankana mothapo <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:08:16 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Lamola + Floyd vs. Mabe + Magaqa in ANCYL succession battle *Very interesting. The Milk bowl has fallen and the cats are fighting. This is the problem of greedyness and demagogues. Socialism or Heaven Matankana Mothapo * On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:06 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > interesting > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:09:08 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *[YCLSA Discussion] Lamola + Floyd vs. Mabe + Magaqa in ANCYL > succession battle > > > [image: The Star] > > > *Succession battle rages at ANCYL* > **** > *****Fear and loathing is the order of the day* > > * > * > *Michelle Pietersen, The Star, Johannesburg, 16 November 2011* > > ****While the ANC Youth League is to respond on Wednesday to the ANC’s > sanctions on members of its national executive, its president’s grip on > power is understood to be slipping as a succession battle rages in its top > ranks.**** > > ****Julius Malema is said to be in a state of paranoia, and his > lieutenant, Floyd Shivambu, intensifying divisions by secretly pushing a > campaign for deputy youth league president Ronald Lamola to take over from > Malema when his reign ends. Many youth members and leaders believe this > will happen sooner rather than later.**** > > ****“Julius is vulnerable (and) does not know who to trust. He is losing > his mind trying to figure out who is against him and who is for him,” an > ANC source said.**** > > ****Divisions in the league were exposed when the ANC announced that its > leaders had been found guilty of contravening the party’s constitution.*** > * > > ****The announcement that Malema was being suspended for five years and > Shivambu for three sparked a frenzy among league leaders as they moved to > secure their positions, in the event an appeal failed.**** > > ****The league is expected to show a united front on Wednesday when it > officially announces its fightback campaign, but it is understood that not > all of the young lions are convinced that Malema is worth the fight.**** > > ****Following their emergency meeting at the weekend, ANCYL national > executive committee (NEC) members said the league leaders, for the sake of > unity, would rally publicly behind Malema.**** > > ****Some have expressed undying support for Malema and his co-accused, > while others have said that efforts to save him are futile, with plans in > the making for a future without him.**** > > ****Some national youth leaders have said privately that Malema and his > co-accused should not appeal against their sentences and that, for the sake > of the organisation, Malema should be “sacrificed”.**** > > ****One NEC member described Malema’s attempt to save his political skin > as a “dead horse giving its last kick”.**** > > ****The consensus was that it was too little, too late for Malema, who > was known to have ruled the league with an iron fist, making many enemies > in doing so.**** > > ****Fear and loathing are the order of the day, with the top five > officials at each others' throats, insiders say.**** > > ****It appears, however, that Lamola and youth league treasurer Pule Mabe > are to face off for the top job.**** > > ****Shivambu, ANC insiders have said, is waging a campaign against Mabe > in a bid to propel Lamola into the top position. “(Shivambu) will want to > rule from the grave and he will find Ronald useful in his personal > business.”**** > > ****Shivambu’s ambitions of becoming youth league secretary-general were > thwarted earlier this year when delegates elected Sindiso Magaqa.**** > > ****Magaqa was sanctioned by the ANC’s national disciplinary committee > for disparaging remarks he made about Public Enterprises Minister Malusi > Gigaba and ordered to apologise publicly to the minister within five days > of the ruling.**** > > ****He has not done so because he intends appealing, which he must do > within 13 days of the ANC national disciplinary committee’s announcement of > the verdict.**** > > ****Shivambu’s campaign against Mabe, a league source said, was aimed at > casting aspersions on his integrity in the media, and to portray him as > “power hungry” to the branches – who, in the event that the fight comes > down to a special elective conference, would hold the key to the youth > league throne.**** > > ****But an ANC source said Lamola was a double agent who pretended to > support Malema and oppose President Jacob Zuma, whereas in his home > province of Mpumalanga he was known to support Zuma for a second term, and > the province’s premier, David Mabuza, a known Zuma ally, for re-election.* > *** > > ****Lamola, however, said he was a national leader and did not play on > the provincial political fields.**** > > ****He laughed off suggestions that he was a double agent.**** > > ****Mabe is seen by most members as the logical replacement for Malema > because of his political seniority over Lamola.**** > > ****Lamola said on Tuesday there was no secret campaign to position > himself as Malema’s heir apparent.**** > > ****However, the youth league’s constitution dictates that, as deputy, > Lamola steps in as acting leader of the league if its president is unable > to fulfil the role.**** > > ****Talks are under way in anti-Malema camps about bringing a vote of no > confidence against the youth league leadership.**** > > ****Lamola denied weekend press reports that he’d had to be restrained > from assaulting Mabe when the sanctions were announced.**** > > ****The reports said Lamola had accused Mabe of being a sell-out for > saying they should not appeal the verdicts and they had almost come to > blows. But those in Mabe’s camp said the allegation was an orchestrated > attempt to discredit the treasurer general, a close ally of Malema.**** > > ****Lamola said: “It’s not true (succession war is raging). I don’t know > where it comes from. Malema… will remain the leader until the next elective > conference. All of us are going to appeal. The league is intact and not > demoralised. The mood is high, we have no problems.” - Political Bureau > * > > * > *From: > http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/succession-battle-rages-at-ancyl-1.1179256?showComments=true > * > > ** > ** > ** > > ** > ** > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail > to this address (repeat): [email protected] . > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail > to this address (repeat): [email protected] . > -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
<<star.gif>>
