Absolute staffing, is one of many of this Labour Brokers. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dominic Tweedie Sent: 08 February 2012 09:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a strikeagainst the ANC?
Cde Scelo, Can you please name one labour broker. A name. One name. Perhaps you are familiar but I dare say that most of us have never seen this thing. In my working life of nearly half a century I have never seen this thing called "Labour Broker". People think that because "Labour Broker" appears to be English, therefore any English-speaker should be able to explain it. But I can tell you, as an English speaker, that there is nothing in England called "Labour Broker". So, don't tell us what it is that you are talking about. Instead, point to one so we can see it. The whole country is supposed to come out on strike over this. So let us see what it is, first, please. It's about time. VC On 8 February 2012 08:50, Scelo Gcabashe <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Awu Awu Awu Vanguard, when I read your posting it was as if you have stabbed me with a sharp object and i cant believe that a former union shopsteward affiliated to COSATU can say there are NO issues regarding labour brokers.. i am shocked. I am shocked that you equate workers struggles against exploitation to a simple confrontation with the ANC.. I would have loved to point out how labour brokers are so bad for the workers but due to time i will not be able at this point in time however please familiarise yourself with workers who are hired by labour brokers, but generally labour broking is like modern day slavery. Its so unfortunate that you overlook the relationship that COSATU as organised labour has with the Government that is led by the ANC. I am saying you are overlooking it because i don't want to say you are naive because i regard you as someone who is\should be knowledgeable as to the negotiations in NEDLAC regarding this matter. COSATU has on a number of occassions had discussions with the ANC regarding the COSATU position that labour brokers must be banned, so when COSATU puts a demand on the table it can not do so smilling, COSATU is not a sweetheart union. So if the tone of COSATU worries you its so unfortunate and you will have to leave with that. in a number of instances you will find that it is government that has hardened attitudes against COSATU due to issues that cosatu raised and these issues are issues that are from the shopfloor and not issues that are from somewhere else.. all issues that COSATU raise are worker related and in most instances the society at large identifies with those issues. I chair the PEC and a number of cosatu provincial gatherings in gauteng, even the Provincial shopstewards council that is a source of this debate. I have criss crossed the whole provinces doing mobilisation for the ANC as part of the deligation of COSATU, never and never has COSATU distorted or negates the objective of the ANC as you say.. No gathering of COSATU has been used to create confusion in the ANC, you are totally wrong and this statement in your last paragraph has no shred of truth in it, The ANC itself has never said this that you say cosatu distorts the objective, actualy what you say is the contrary because COSATU has come up with a number of programs, discussion documents, has conducted mass education on why the ANC must be supported. lastly Vanguard workers not even those that are members of the unions affiliated to cosatu.. I am saying that workers across the spectrum are very supportive of cosatu initiatives i can bet with you right now that the streets of JOZI will be red come the 7th of March. and you can take your caution and throw it in the nearest dustbin... Comradely yours Scelo Gcabashe Deputy Chairperson (COSATU) Gauteng Province 084 596 9922 P.s. Lest i forget to mention that most Leaders of COSATU are leaders of ANC in their own accord and right... >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 2012/02/08 07:44 AM >>> >>> Yes Comrades, I am also worried by the tone of COSATU Leadership. Alliance Summit including ANC said Tripartite Alliance remains strategic centre but it has always been COSATU that convenes Shopsteward Council to propel harden attitude against government. On aspect of Labour Brokers, I don't think there are issues there but its been used as scapegoat to confront ANC government on aspects of ANC internal operations. During my active participation as a shopsteward in all COSATU Shopsteward Council I have said we need Workers Party that would account to its constituencies and I was hauled and called to order be CEC leadership. Today all what is happening COSATU in their meeting negates ANC and distorts the objective of the ruling party. Imagine if they say clinics and schools would be closed??? And what I wish to caution COSATU Leadership is that workers at point are not loyal to their federation and it would be realized during al l strikes. I pause! Sent from my BlackBerry(r) wireless d -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 05:22:42 To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a strike against the ANC? Ok, noted thanks. Do u believe he has any personal ambitions of leading the movement, because that's how I decode these utterances? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 07:17:25 To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a strike against the ANC? Yes thabiso he is member!being a member is not an isolated reality he is also the GS of cosatu which is an independent alliance partner! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 05:10:39 To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a strike against the ANC? Vavi is a ANC member correct I presume? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Domza VC <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:30:35 To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a strike against the ANC? The Times *Vavi warns ANC* *Sipho Masondo, The Times, Johannesburg, 8 February 2012* Cosatu boss Zwelinzima Vavi yesterday slammed the ANC, saying it could no longer depend on struggle heroes to win its elections. In a hard-hitting speech only two days before President Jacob Zuma gives his state of the nation address, Vavi said the honeymoon was over. Speaking at a Cosatu Gauteng shop stewards' council meeting in Soweto, Vavi told the ANC-led government to focus on delivering on its five priority areas: decent jobs, quality education, affordable healthcare, fighting crime and corruption, and rural development. "We have gone to the people and promised them five priorities. "In 2014 we can't go to them waving flags and say: 'Remember Chris Hani, Albert Luthuli and Joe Slovo.' "They will say, 'What else? ... Go away, you are liars. Don't tell us about Luthuli and Mandela, tell us about yourself. Why should we support you?'" Vavi said that in 2014 voters would no longer be patient but would want results. He said: "2014 will not be an ordinary election. We will be celebrating 20 years of democracy." Before Zimbabwe was hit by its political crisis, said Vavi, the country had done better than South Africa because it had improved education and health services. But South Africa was going the other way, said Vavi, adding that Zimbabwe was hurt by allowing Mugabe to be president for more than 20 years. He criticised the ANC for its "self-destructing" tendencies. "The alliance is self-destructing, I've never seen this rate of self-destructing. "We are on the fast lane to self-destruction. Let's fix our house before it collapses on our heads." Vavi blamed those who "think they have divine authority to eat on behalf of the masses. The tendency of tenderpreneurs should be exposed and isolated". Reiterating his call for a March 7 nationwide strike, Vavi said his union federation and all its affiliates would voice their frustration at the government's refusal to ban labour brokers. "We will strike to demand the banning of labour brokers. If we don't fight this battle now, in no time all of us will be employed by labour brokers." Instead of banning labour brokers, Vavi said, the government had proposed: Forbidding labour brokers from employing people for more than six months; After six months, the employee shall be deemed to be permanently employed; Equal pay for all employees doing the same job, whether permanently employed or assigned by a under labour broker; and Labour brokers and employers will be jointly cited in court or in arbitration. Cosatu Gauteng secretary Dumisani Dakile, said: "We must make sure that, on March 7, there are no clinics operating. Hospitals must come to a standstill. We must make sure that there isn't a single mayor who is made tea by his worker." Cosatu's main affiliates include the National Union of Mineworkers, SA Municipal Workers' Union, National Union of Metalworkers of SA and the SA Transport and Allied Workers' Union. *From: http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2012/02/08/vavi-warns-anc* NB: This email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings Limited EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE which can be viewed at http://www.eskom.co.za/email_legalnotice -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. 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