At least you did not accuse Vanguard of "hatred". But you are still trying to escape the force of the argument by suggesting bad faith or ulterior motives.
We can't get to the heart of the matter like this comrade. If the argument is strong, you have to take it on the chin and come back with your better argument. Not try to turn the question over to one of "animosity" or anything like that. This is a serious, basic question of what Trade Unions are all about. Let's talk about it, not duck it. VC On 8 February 2012 15:04, linda schalk <[email protected]> wrote: > Vanguard your comments seems to suggest that you perhaps left the labour > federation(SAMWU) not on a good note hence you have soo much animosity > towards Cosatu,,pounding my head > Reagrds > Linda Schalk > > Sent from iPad > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: 08/02/2012 14:58:07 > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a > strikeagainst the ANC? > > Thanks VC > > I said it before and many felt as if I am arrogant. I was Regional > Secretary of SAMWU and all Marches that I organized we were victors cause I > did not rely on government to organize workers but to have control over > SAMWU membership. > > You said it all VC, we should be honest COSATU lacks revolutionary > character now it serves as drum beat almost like gospel group. I was in > struggles of COSATU before I was even employed but today restrictions you > would never get COSATU on the ground cause they want ANC or Government to > organize workers for them. > > Let's wait May Day and you would realize that there is no consciousness > within COSATU cause such days are reduced to be holidays! > > Agggg! > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:37:32 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a > strikeagainst the ANC? > > Selling our strength (*labour-power*) is what the working class does, in > any case, comrade. > > Comrades: the first political speech I made, or the first one that I can > remember, was against casualisation. It was in the early 1970s. About 40 > years ago. > > Nothing has changed. > > Trade unions have been organising against casualisation since the days of > the Tolpuddle Martyrs. > > It's what trade unions do. > > There is nothing extra over temp agencies that you can call "labour > broking". It's the same thing, or else it is nothing, or only a scary > bogey. > > We have law against "permanent temping". So we should use the law that we > already have. > > But the law cannot do what organising should do. > > Unions are supposed to organise workplaces, for security of employment and > for collective bargaining. > > Who started the idea that the government was going to do this for you? It > is bad trade unionism to say so, and it is lazy trade unionism. > > What, you get the law to organise the workplace, and then you collect the > union contributions off the payroll? For what? > > It is not worth going on strike over this, comrades. Instead, those > workplaces should be organised. > > The government is not going to organise workplaces if the unions don't do > it. > > And the unions will wither and die if they start waiting for government to > do what they are supposed to do themselves. > > > *VC* > > > > > > > On 8 February 2012 14:19, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hutech;Express;PAG;Moshitoa;Bafazi are mothers of labour brokers in > > UNISA, I know majority of young South African especially black people who > > selling their strength to this people > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 08:12:06 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a > > strikeagainst the ANC? > > > > Kelly Group is the biggest labour broker in the country. Exploitation of > > the individual. Funny thing is that we have no unions in labour brokers > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "linda schalk" <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:35:20 > > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a > > strikeagainst the ANC? > > > > Work Force in Cape town is one example of a Labour Broker,where workers > > are sold into a labour market in exchange of a substantial sum of money > > ,every portion of their salaries goes to this organisation,staffing is > just > > a fancy term, > > Regrds > > Linda schalk > > > > Sent from iPad > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dominic Tweedie > > Sent: 08/02/2012 09:06:46 > > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A strike against "labour brokers"? Or a > > strikeagainst the ANC? > > > > C > > > > -- > You are subscribed. 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