Anc desparate for the white vote, SMH..... [email protected] wrote:
>Black people are addicted to white supremacy; they derive a sense of >importance in being "called to a meeting" by the white groups; it is >absolutely fluttering. They love discussion documents better than they do land >acquisition for the majority. White people, on the other hand, love the land. >They continue to acquire more of it and they keep black people from it. They >are running the food security of this country; black people are running >nothing. While black people tear each other apart debating ideology and who >should succeed whom, the mines and minerals receive even stiffer protection in >the hands of liberalised capitalist elite with the cunning face of the >British. And what do the black people continue to do? Debate, debate and >debate...about the things they do not own. As if to say 'we do not want them >for our people; we want them for a few of us and the majority of us can just >carry on debating.' It is so sad. > >Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 04:11:40 >To: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Afrikaans Dialogue Summit - Statement > >I think if we can take the document titled Colonialism of a Special Type we >would have a clear view and a better analysis towards this event. This >document without going to much detail actually recognizes the need for >inclusiveness of smaller groups especially the Afikaaner community and it is >the responsibility of the ANC to meet with these groups and discuss any issue >which they might have which would lead to nation building. > >We also have to be receptive over the CODESA negotiations and the views of >those who refute any talks of this nature. The fact is those negotiations did >not fully express or up to a great extent the plight of those who have been >disenfranchised for many years while it it the very same people who oppressed >them. There are therefore lessons to be learned, according to a book by >Vladimir Shubin titled ANC a View from Moscow, during the Wankie operation, >Chris Hani raised certain views sharply against the ANC leadership. He >questioned them of certain status they where acquiring for themselves and >their family members and close associate from mainly the then government. He >questioned the salaries and stipends, benefits they receive, cars they would >get, how children of leaders would be sent to oversees universities to study >while other MK and comrades where in exile. I suppose he was concern highly so >with the causal relationship and meetings of ANC leaders with those who are >perceived to be enemies then, and how the ANC leaders would benefit out of >these relations. It is no wonder then that the current decent would surface >when such events take place. > >I think time and patience has a way of bringing clarity. We have to trust our >decisions and that of our leaders based on the relevant theoretical material >at hand that all efforts are for nation building and as a congress movement we >hold the capacity to take any decision that would make the socioeconomic >standards of the disenfranchised better at the Mangaung conference in >particular. > >Regards >Sbu >Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 18:13:59 >To: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Afrikaans Dialogue Summit - Statement > >I really wish to differ with you cde Mthimkulu; you see the ANC has, for 18 >years done what you think would not happen in that meeting; protecting the >rights and privelages of those who benefited from aphartheid. > >It is important to face up to empirical evidence before us, social >transformation has not been held up entirely by those that we think have. >Infact the biggest holders of social transformation are our very own elected >representatives, whom have viewed public office as a vehicle to amass wealth >for themselves and their families. > >This meeting, in my view, was more of another Codesa of some sort. Where Black >leaders assure Afrikaaners that despite all the fury surrounding land reform >and nationalisation the ANC would not be making any drastic policy changes >that would see them losing their wealth etc. It was more to entrench >confidence to the Afrikaaners that no matter how much discussions take place >at the Conference in Mangaung the ANC would continue to ensure that all rights >of all citizens in society are protected. > >Sadly Black South Africa will one day wake up to that realisation. The >realisation that no matter how much we talk and discuss, material change in >our societies will forever be mirrored in policy documents. Whilst it >continues to secure 3/4 of its total votes from black people; part of its top >priorities upon re-election is the appeasement of all the minority groups that >differed to its election. > >Yes we may choose to ignore what is before us now, or we may pretend that it's >not happening, but reality is: It is our children and our childrens children >that will continue to suffer from the injustices created by white people upon >their settlement in this land. It does not take profound knowledge of history >to see this. > >I thank you all. > >S.C. Makananda >Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Mthimkulu Mashiya" <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 17:18:19 >To: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Afrikaans Dialogue Summit - Statement > >I sympathise with and understand the uneasiness expressed by cde Ngoako Matsha >in an earlier posting. I want to believe however that the SG, TG and the >other leaders are not going to be hoodwinked into protecting privileges of >those who benefited from apartheid. > >There are those who are in denial about benefiting from apartheid and who want >us to believe they got to their privileged position on merit. These are very >people who block & frustrate all efforts and actions aimed at social >transformation. > >The ANC's historic mission to unite the people of South Africa must not be >abused! >Mthimkulu Mashiya >Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > >-----Original Message----- >From: VC <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 18:10:16 >To: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Afrikaans Dialogue Summit - Statement > > >ANC > >*ANC Media Release, 8 March 2012* > > >*ANC Afrikaans Dialogue Summit Statement* > > >A successful summit was held today for the whole day at the Protea >Balalaika Hotel in Sandton. It was a well-attended summit with positive >outcomes. > >A senior NEC delegation of the African National Congress met today with >leaders from a wide ranging group of Afrikaans organisations, including >representatives of 19 organisations, academics, intellectuals, business, >religious, cultural and other community leaders. The ANC was led by its >Secretary General, Mr Gwede Mantashe, Treasurer General, Mathews Phosa, >other NEC members, Ministers, Renier Schoeman and Daryl Swanepoel. > >The meeting was characterised by frank, open and direct discussion, and >took place in an honest and constructive atmosphere. All parties >expressed their appreciation for the platform and enthusiasm to be >involved in the envisaged process. The process will also be expanded to >include other organisations that were not present at today's summit. > >The meeting identified a number of priority areas dear to the Afrikaans >speaking community which require discussion and debate leading to >consensus. This included, amongst others, the question of education and >training, land reform, economic empowerment, as well as language, >linguistic & cultural rights. > >The Afrikaans Dialogue, organised under the auspices of the ANC >programme for an inclusive South Africa, was called in order to take the >discussion of nation-building, reconciliation and inclusiveness forward, >which took place at the request of the NEC and in response to the >progress made over the last two years in this regard. The ANC is >strongly committed to building an inclusive South Africa and as such >welcomes the interaction with the Afrikaans speaking and other communities. > >The need was expressed, and agreement reached on certain structural >arrangements that will be put in place so as ensure that ongoing >attention be given the issues raised; and in order to ensure that these >issues remain high on the national agenda. > >A report is currently being developed on the meeting, the process and >the proposed structural arrangements for tabling at the next National >Executive Committee meeting of the ANC next weekend. > > >*_Issued by_: >Jackson Mthembu >National Spokesperson > >_Enquiries_: >Renier Schoeman, 083 251 4045 >Daryl Swanepoel, 083 799 6058 >Keith Khoza, 082 823 9672 >*** > > > >-- >You are subscribed. 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