Leader,

While I am aware that number of years cannot denote maturity, but I
believe some element of accountability can be enforced or demanded
from such members.

It is, mostly, not simple for people who have been with the ANC to
leave it. In a number of this fights and factions you find that there
is one or three old and corrupt comrades who have been with the ANC
for years who will masquerade as a the savior and the "guardian of
wisdom".

This "leader" is mostly followed or surrounded by comrades who are
less than five to six in the ANC, who respect and everything he/she
says.

This is pathetic.

On 12/3/12, Ndinisa Maviyo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sometimes the number of years in an organisation does not transform to
> political maturity, the leadership of the ANC is aware of this situation but
> because it works for their advantage, the issue of political education has
> been ignored on purpose. the problem was identified long before Polokwane,
> anyway the ANC is good in identifying problems and solution but lacks the
> courage to impliment. Comrades are spending years singing and praising
> individuals than the ANC.
>
> Im proposing a standadised AGENDA FOR BRANCH
>
> OPENING
> REMARKS
> CREDENTIALS
> POLITICAL OVERVIEW
>   :CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION
>     NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL
> DISCUSSIONS
> LOCAL DEVELOPMENT
>   : IPD REVIEW ETC
> AOB
>  CLOSURE
>
> --- On Mon, 12/3/12, Mzukisi Ronyuza <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mzukisi Ronyuza <[email protected]>
> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] DELEGATES TO MANGAUNG:
> To: "yclsa-eom-forum" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Colin Eglin Ngakane Mokoena" <[email protected]>, "Mamokete
> Radebe" <[email protected]>, "Jefferey Rademeyer"
> <[email protected]>, "Bheki Ishmeal Vilakazi" <[email protected]>,
> "imvemnyama" <[email protected]>, "Innocentia Mphuthi"
> <[email protected]>, "Ntombomz i Mjajubana" <[email protected]>,
> "lebeko" <[email protected]>, "lebeko" <[email protected]>, "Lebogang"
> <[email protected]>, "Linda Mavuso" <[email protected]>, "Daniel
> Jay Cee Chauke" <[email protected]>, "hendriks.wendy"
> <[email protected]>, "Hlongwana, Nokhanya"
> <[email protected]>, "Star Hlongwane" <[email protected]>,
> "star hlongwane" <[email protected]>, "Dr Mako" <[email protected]>, "Bongiwe
> Skosana" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>, "bhekianc" <[email protected]>, "Bheki
> Ngobese" <[email protected]>, "Bones Modise" <[email protected]>,
> "Lucky
>  Ndongeni" <[email protected]>, "Joseph Nhlapo"
> <[email protected]>, "Ndlela Radebe" <[email protected]>,
> "Andries Mapetla" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 4:45 PM
>
>
> Comrades,
>
> As we go to Mangaung I am proposing that the conference should do away
> with notion of any member of the ANC serving at any level if chosen by
> branches.
>
> It is my take that if we want to reclaim or retain the revolutionary
> culture of the ANC we should concentrate we should be jealousy on who
> lead us in the ANC. While it is not the main factor but the duration a
> person has served in the struggle, and the ANC in particular, has the
> bearing on some characteristics that form the character of the ANC and
> those the defines the metamophorsis the ANC undergoes in the meantime.
>
> We are told that in countries like China age and the time taken within
> their politics is the factor for one to be given political
> responsibilities. In Polokwane, we have reaffirmed the need for
> political education and this should go with maturity that is attained
> over a period of time. My concern is that election or appointment of
> people with scant regard of the organisation has been detrimetal to
> the ANC. Election of people who are not schooled on the basic of the
> political culture of the ANC has brought us the some of the challenges
> that we have today.
>
> Below are my proposals for nominations into levels of nominations:-
>
> REC Nominations :- One should be a member of the ANC for a period of
> at least 10-                              15 years
>
> PEC Nominations :- One should be a member of ANC for period of at least 15
> years
>
> NEC Nominations :- One should be a member of ANC for a period of at least
> 20
>                                years
>
>
> GOVERNMENT DEPLOYMENTS
>
> PR Councillor and Ward Councillor: minimum of 5 years in the ANC
> MMC and Mayor:- minimum of 7 years in the ANC
> MPL / MEC/Premier  :- Minimum of 10-15 years in the ANC
> Minister   :- Minimum of 15 years
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mzukisi Ronyuza
>
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