We had plenty of laughs about baby oil, and we had some fun with the matter of the Iron Duke's daughter, but no-one was claiming that she was employed by JZ.
Sorry if you can't see the difference. VC On 28 July 2013 14:46, soso <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Cde VC. > Did u have the same agitation for the vacation of office when president JZ > impregnated the Duke's daughter? > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * [email protected] > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:50:20 +0000 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to > sexualintercourse in the office > > Cde Smanga, my views exactly! I have raised this since last night. The VC > is clearly biased and hateful towards cde Vavi! > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * "manelisi tyatyantsi" <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:35:49 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to > sexualintercourse in the office > > On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:53:11 +0300 Smanga <[email protected]> > wrote > Good morning VC > I have been obsrving your comments against Cosatu GS, and I am concluding > that you have a deep hatred against the man,your comments are irrational. > > > Regards > Manelisi Tyatyantsi > > > > > Cde > > The movement is going down, all we do is to contribute. One day in history > it will tell. As for me I will be green back and gold in my life time. ced > Vavi is a leader of the working class. Life can be a temation at times. > ------------------------------ > From: Dominic Tweedie > Sent: 2013/07/27 20:50 > To: YCLSA EOM Forum > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to > sexualintercourse in the office > > > I would like to know what the group thinks about that. > > VC > > > > On 27 July 2013 19:46, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> VC, >> Cde Vavi is a fellow cadre of yours! That's where your support should >> start! And yes, we also need to support the lady too. However, as we do >> such, we should be aware of the blackmailing tactics that have emerged and >> being used from her side. So, my question is: who deserves more of our >> sympathy? You tell me! >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:41:25 +0200 >> *To: *YCLSA EOM Forum<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to >> sexual intercourse in the office >> >> >> Excuse me for responding, but what about offering support to the other >> person, the employee, the worker? >> >> How can you, in the name of COSATU, abandon the worker in favour of the >> employer? Why would you, as a brother, forget your sister? >> >> There is no hiding place. >> >> "Hic Rhodus, his salta!" >> >> >> VC >> >> >> >> >> On 27 July 2013 19:29, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Mr Seitlhamo is on point. Let's offer support to each other- because if >>> we truly want to be analytic, we will not GO anyway. This will be far more >>> personal- consistency aseblief on ALL matters of principle. >>> >>> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * [email protected] >>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>> *Date: *Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:25:12 +0000 >>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to >>> sexual intercourse in the office >>> >>> VC, I'm just asking you to be a brother and a comrade to one of your own >>> in his challenging and difficult times. Let's not kick a man when he's >>> down! This is not a political issue that cde Vavi is faced with, but >>> personal and sensitive! >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>> *Date: *Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:20:07 +0200 >>> *To: *YCLSA EOM Forum<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to >>> sexual intercourse in the office >>> >>> >>> O.k, I'm sitting down. I have had my say and I didn't keep my head down >>> waiting for somebody else to give me cover. >>> >>> Now I am looking to see what different people are going to say about >>> this. Like, say, Hajira Omarjee, for example? >>> >>> Tomorrow there will be the Sunday papers, and there will be the YCLSA >>> rally. There is no place to hide on this. >>> >>> >>> VC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 July 2013 19:08, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> VC, >>>> Please don't behave like a saint which you're NOT! We all mess up at >>>> times. Just sit down! >>>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >>>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>>> *Date: *Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:01:19 +0200 >>>> *To: *YCLSA EOM Forum<[email protected]> >>>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>>> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits >>>> to sexual intercourse in the office >>>> >>>> >>>> Sex with people of a different age is legal so long as they are not >>>> minors. >>>> >>>> Office romances are common, although problematic and usually unwise. >>>> >>>> Adultery is also not a crime, even if it hurts people, >>>> >>>> You can have all that. >>>> >>>> What is crucial here is none of those, but it is that the senior person >>>> involved was the big boss of the organisation, the one who hires and fires, >>>> and who has admitted having sexual intercourse with this employee in >>>> the business premises. >>>> >>>> This is an impossible situation. What was this woman supposed to do? >>>> How was she going to reject the man, unless she was ready to lose her job? >>>> >>>> This powerful man thinks that people are only nice to him because they >>>> like him. >>>> >>>> COSATU is not just any organisation, by the way. It is supposed to >>>> defend employees. It is supposed to defend women. The General Secretary is >>>> supposed to, and claims to, represent two million workers, a large >>>> proportion of whom are women. >>>> >>>> There are no comparable cases to this. There are no excuses that can >>>> make this tolerable. >>>> >>>> >>>> VC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 July 2013 18:30, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree with you cde Soso...We won't have the movement if those >>>>> principles would be applied to all! >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Sibongile Mbele >>>>> C: +27 76 900 1858 >>>>> F: +27 86 556 1544 >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: * "soso" <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>>>> *Date: *Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:32:21 +0000 >>>>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>>>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits >>>>> to sexual intercourse in the office >>>>> >>>>> Then many of our leaders should have vacated their positions by now >>>>> comrade VC. >>>>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: * VC <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>>>> *Date: *Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:20:51 +0200 >>>>> *To: *yclsa forum<[email protected]> >>>>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>>>> *Subject: *[YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to >>>>> sexual intercourse in the office >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> An employer who admits in public to having sex with an employee half >>>>> his age, in the workplace, has to leave at once for gross misconduct. >>>>> >>>>> After that, whatever investigations may be necessary, can proceed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Headline (click to open)* >>>>> >>>>> *Paper/Agency* >>>>> >>>>> *Cosatu boss Vavi raped me, claims >>>>> woman<http://www.peherald.com/news/article/17455> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> *Herald* >>>>> >>>>> *Cosatu's Vavi denies rape claim, admits to >>>>> cheating<http://mg.co.za/article/2013-07-27-vavi-denies-rape-allegations> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> *Mail and Guardian* >>>>> >>>>> *Top S. 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