@ cde Vusi Is head hunting not accepable form of employment? Manelisi Tyatyantsi
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:21:43 +0200 Vusi Nzapheza <[email protected]> wrote > Cdes, how many leaders in our movement have been caught with their > pants down and they apologised to the nation, their wives and the > Alliance and are still in office today. I can only remember that in > the last few years, former ANC chief whip in Parliament was found > guilty by a ethics committee for making advances to surbonate and he > took the fall and was suspended. While circumstances vary in each > case, there's at least two serving Ministers who committed adultery > despite being married and no action was taken against them, including > the president of the ANC. It would seem that the only realistic case > Cosatu can pursue against the SG is the manner he recruited and hired > the complainant......i.e, without following due processes. And Im sure > there the union will be guided by existing policies if a charge is > pursued. The complainant has fuelled suspicion against her motives by > taking so long to report the incident and the withdrawal of the > grievance on Monday does not help her either. Cde Vavi is well within > his rights to lay a charge against her in order to clear his name and > here it is up to the courts deal with the matter and decide whether > indeed the complainant sought to make financial gain from the episode. > > On 7/29/13, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > @Mantshi > > You have summarized it in a well sound manner VC is barking on the wrong > > tree because in this case Vavi himself told the world they had consensual > > sex in their working space whether it was during their spare time I do not > > know. But why should there be someone to lodge a complaint when he > > confessed publicly? Isn't it those who are with him at the top running the > > organization should react to his confession? I see no need for them to wait > > for someone to complain at all. VC let the matter rest > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:44:44 > > To: YCLSA EOM Forum<[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to > > sexual > > intercourse in the office > > > > The "assumption" (e.g. from Cde Njabulo, below) is that there is going to > > be a DC because of the misconduct that has been admitted by Vavi to the > > world (standing-up sex on the premises in working hours). > > > > But for the DC to happen, somebody must come forward and complain. Nobody > > is coming forward. I think that is because they are all "bang", scared. > > > > It makes sense. Look at what Vavi is doing to the woman who he had sex > > with. He is pushing a criminal charge against her as well as suing her for > > damage to his reputation. > > > > Who wants that kind of treatment from their boss? > > > > Of course they are "bang". > > > > > > VC > > > > > > > > > > On 29 July 2013 21:17, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> ** > >> That's you assumption > >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > >> ------------------------------ > >> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > >> *Sender: * [email protected] > >> *Date: *Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:08:02 +0200 > >> *To: *YCLSA EOM Forum<[email protected]> > >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to > >> sexual intercourse in the office > >> > >> > >> When a complainant comes forward to bring a case of misconduct against > >> the > >> General Secretary, then you can say that the complaining person is not > >> too > >> scared. > >> > >> The misconduct is there, but the complaint is not there. > >> > >> I put it to you that this shows that no-one in COSATU dares to make that > >> complaint. They are all too scared to do it. > >> > >> > >> VC > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 29 July 2013 21:04, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> ** > >>> No one is scared at COSATU because they know there are Vavi's detractors > >>> also working there who are as powerful as Vavi is > >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > >>> *Sender: * [email protected] > >>> *Date: *Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:54:30 +0200 > >>> *To: *YCLSA EOM Forum<[email protected]> > >>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > >>> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU GS accused of rape - admits to > >>> sexual intercourse in the office > >>> > >>> > >>> It will only do so if somebody complains. > >>> > >>> Who is going to complain? > >>> > >>> The workers at COSATU are all too scared to complain. > >>> > >>> So there is not likely to be any misconduct DC. > >>> > >>> > >>> VC > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 29 July 2013 20:47, Njabulo <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Comrades > >>>> > >>>> I dont think thos is worth the time thas has been put into debating it. > >>>> > >>>> The way i see it Vavi has comitted misconduct. I also dont see any > >>>> conspiracy here this woman was flashing conspiracy so that VAVI will pay > >>>> up > >>>> so please lets put the matter to rest. COSATU MUST FOLLOW NORMAL DC > >>>> PROCEDURES FOR MISSCONDUCT > >>>> > >>>> Njabulo > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPad > >>>> > >>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 8:41 PM, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cde Soso, it is not the first one. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> VC > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > > > -- > > > > *Communist University:* > > > > *CU Downloads*: *sites.google.com/site/cu2012courses/* > > > > *E-mail forums*: *CU > > <https://groups.google.com/group/communist-university>*; > > *YCLSA <https://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum>*; > > *CU-Africa<https://groups.google.com/group/CUAfrica> > > *; *SADTU > > <https://groups.google.com/group/sadtu-political-education-forum>* > > > > *Blog*s: *CU <http://domza.blogspot.com/>*; > > *YCLSA<http://wftu-yclsa-cu-jhb.blogspot.com/> > > *; *CU-Africa <http://cuafrica.blogspot.com/>*; > > *SADTU<http://sadtu-pol-ed.blogspot.com/> > > * > > > > *Moderator*: *[email protected]* > > > > -- > > -- > > You are subscribed. 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