The first impression is the real thing Zanele hence I didn't even want to waste time reading S'dumo's piece. Going forward will be contractions and contradictions.
Everyone, I believe, knows what the "devil" or "demon" is/means. If you start your introduction saying, I'm the devil, or I am a demon; and going forward you talk about being a fair and democratic person, a sensible person like me won't listen to you. I have a lot more better things to do or to listen to. You'll be confussing yourself and your audience, infact, is a bad way to make an introduction. You can make or relate parables on whatever it is you want to say, but be mindful of your audience as you would want to be listed to. My point was to show you and Thabo that careless and irresponsible "parables" can potentially expose who and what you really are; and you and Thabo surprisingly rushed to "contexualise" what S'dumo was saying and in that ridiculing me. C'mon guys, catch a wake up! And eintlik wena Zanele I don't even know what you are trying to say. Atleast, to a lesser degree, I can catch what Thabo was trying to say, even though he said it wrongly, like his Cde S'dumo, which exposes him... Talking about misguided poloticking!!! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:50 AM, zanele <[email protected]> wrote: > Comrades > > I think there is a problem of comrades who have a challenge with analysing > information. This medium tries to instill such a culture but there are > comrades like Mpho below. As much as they waste our time with reading such, > it is also necessary to know they exist. Something we need to own as a > problem and find solutions. > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Dominic Tweedie > Date:02/04/2014 10:33 (GMT+02:00) > To: YCLSA EOM Forum > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Most painful time for COSATU - Dlamini > > > "Terms and Conditions Apply" > > VC > > > On 2 April 2014 08:40, Thabo Thwala <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Mpho >> >> Comrade, do you know this thing called "context"? Always, when you >> read something, make extensive use of the context within which it is >> said for you to understand it better. In all truth and fact your >> complaint is just too petty and exposes your attitude towards >> President S'dumo. Obviously the president cannot be the giver of >> positions in Cosatu as he knows he was elected. The context here is >> that the president had to show the pressures that come with being a >> Cosatu president. Many people will view such a position merely as a >> position of power, but thanks to President S'dumo for telling people >> that it comes with major responsibility and pressure. >> >> So, I advise you comrade to always focus on the context of a statement >> before you comment. >> >> On 02/04/2014, Mpho Lebese <[email protected]> wrote: >> > With due respect; and as my Union affiliated to COSATU: Aaagghhhh!!! >> > Dlamini! >> > >> > I find it difficult to continue reading this, I'll qoute my president, >> the >> > Honourable Sdumo Dlamini; >> > >> > >> > >> > "If you want this position come and take it, I will give it to you." >> > >> > >> > >> > It is indeed the most painful time for COSATU, I agree. You see, this >> > careless phrase by Pres Sdumo, is an indication of a person who believes >> > that he owns the position of COSATU presidency, hence he fools himself >> and >> > people like him that he will give a position to any person who wants >> it!! >> > That's preposterous!!! He didn't put himself there, he was made >> president >> > by us, members in good standing, and we pay his salary. >> > >> > >> > >> > So please Pres Sdumo, stop saying these irresponsible statements, we are >> > not stupids!! >> > >> > >> > >> > This is my view and not of a Union I belong to... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:53 PM, VC <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: IOL new.jpg] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Most painful time for COSATU: Dlamini* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Genevieve Quintal, Sapa, IOL, Johannesburg, 1 April 2014* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> COSATU is going through a difficult and painful period, the trade union >> >> federation's president Sidumo Dlamini said on Tuesday. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "As the president of COSATU (this is) something I would never wish on >> my >> >> worst enemy," he told NEHAWU members at a Gauteng shop stewards council >> >> in >> >> Johannesburg. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "If you want this position come and take it, I will give it to you." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dlamini said it was no luxury to be president of the Congress of SA >> Trade >> >> Unions. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "This is the most painful period the federation is going through." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> COSATU has been at loggerheads with its biggest affiliate, the National >> >> Union of Metalworkers of SA (NUMSA), over the suspension of the trade >> >> union >> >> federation's general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> NUMSA and Vavi have taken COSATU to court in a bid to have the >> suspension >> >> set aside. A judgment in the case is expected soon. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Vavi is also facing an internal disciplinary hearing, expected to be >> held >> >> next month. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In August last year, COSATU said Vavi had been put on special leave >> >> pending the outcome of a disciplinary hearing relating to his affair >> with >> >> a >> >> junior employee. In July, the employee accused him of rape. He said >> they >> >> had an affair. The woman subsequently withdrew a sexual harassment >> >> complaint against him. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In the aftermath of the suspension NUMSA and nine other COSATU >> affiliates >> >> called on COSATU to hold a Special National Congress where new >> leadership >> >> would be elected. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> NUMSA accused Dlamini and other national office bearers of manipulating >> >> processes that were used to suspend Vavi. The union resolved, after >> >> holding >> >> its own special congress, not to support the African National Congress >> in >> >> this year's elections. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dlamini said Vavi's suspension had divided workers for two reasons. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "There are those who have decided they will respect the internal COSATU >> >> process and said they will not speak publicly about what is happening. >> >> This >> >> is the right thing to do," he said. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Then there is a second set of people who do not care how much damage >> it >> >> does COSATU to talk publicly." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dlamini also dismissed those who said they were neutral in the >> situation. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "In a class battle there is no neutrality," he said. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> He explained to National Education, Health and Allied Workers Union >> >> members how the decision to suspend Vavi in the central executive >> >> committee >> >> meeting was taken through a majority rule and not an actual vote, as >> >> required in COSATU's constitution. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This was a long-standing practice in the trade union federation. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "People who have been leading over so many years have been implementing >> >> decisions in the same way 'by majority rule'," Dlamini said. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "That has changed now. You must now vote for everything." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Turning to the debate over the cost of security upgrades to President >> >> Jacob Zuma's private home in Nkandla, KwaZulu-Natal, Dlamini said Zuma >> >> had >> >> not stolen public funds. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "(Public Protector) Thuli Madonsela does not say Zuma stole the R246 >> >> million people are talking about. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "(She) confirms that the president was not giving instructions to >> anyone >> >> doing work there." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dlamini said despite this people still blamed Zuma. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "People of South Africa pretend that Thuli Madonsela said the >> opposite." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sapa >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: >> >> >> http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/most-painful-time-for-COSATU-dlamini-1.1669546#.Uzrr4PmSyD8 >> >> < >> http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/most-painful-time-for-cosatu-dlamini-1.1669546#.Uzrr4PmSyD8 >> >* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> >> signature database 9622 (20140401) __________ >> >> >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> >> You are subscribed. 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