Leave them chief with their money... or you will be tempted to be like them. Bayeke bamoshe or umoshe nabo On 20 Aug 2014 2:48 PM, "Mothusi Tsitsing" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are not being harsh, actually to me you sound like some one who is > quite and always hide behind principle, myself i was part of rebuilding > process and i not speaking theory here but reality...so it does not mean > when i m saying ok you tought me some thing, honestly i was trying to avoid > you. Actually you were very quite, fact is money is at the center stage in > youth league congresses and this congress are won on the basis of who was > the highest bidder...Tender style, tenderprenuers arere- high jacking the > movement and you tell me to shut up....Aooowa mokone. > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Sive Gumenge <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> thanks Chief. >> >> Don't think I am harsh on you. We must build a Youth League with no >> issues maarn. If people do those things, just make sure members are >> educated enough to fight that tendency. This process is not a process of >> Task Teams. It's a process of young people of our movement....all of them... >> >> Viva Cadre >> >> Madala >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Mothusi Tsitsing < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ok leader!!! >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Sive Gumenge <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My Brother, >>>> >>>> We don't talk rumour here. >>>> >>>> Who was given money? Where was this money given? How much money was it? >>>> >>>> Haai comrades maarn let's rebuild the ANCYL without all these things. >>>> >>>> Recruit 100 young people to join, in the process of getting 100, >>>> frequently convene and discuss, how best to reach 100 and more. Every >>>> member pays his/her own joining fee. If you they don't have, organise a >>>> fundraiser and then ask RTT to come and launch and you and you get elected >>>> as Branch Chair. >>>> >>>> Let's not spoil the forum of VC... >>>> >>>> Sive >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Mothusi Tsitsing < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sive fact of the matter is if you read balance of forces, name is >>>>> already on the wall like it or not, money is unleashed to counter >>>>> principle >>>>> and rebuilding process... money is running left right and center, >>>>> patronage >>>>> is the order of the day. So are you saying i must shut up and one other >>>>> thing i m failing to understand why is this topic not important in a forum >>>>> of young people or maybe you are one of the beneficiary. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Sive Gumenge <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is not a squabbling forum broer. >>>>>> >>>>>> We must be lead by NTT all of us. If you have issues, raise them in >>>>>> your branch and win it to take those views further till National >>>>>> Congress. >>>>>> Such things you can say there on facebook not here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> On 20 Aug 2014 1:24 PM, "Msawenkosi Nikani" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That is why ANCYL is a School of the ANC, YCLSA of SACP exists and >>>>>>> that is the reason CU exists. That is contemporary, and should be >>>>>>> engaged >>>>>>> instead of dismissed. We are not all historians, this is where we vent >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> whatever even observations. Please be tolerant of us Sive. Actually you >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> a member of the RTT that you are suppose to interrogate the Comrade for >>>>>>> facts instead of dismissing as if you are the one projected in his >>>>>>> observations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Each one Teach One and the process of learning never stops please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Sive Gumenge < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chief, we have better things to read about and please give >>>>>>>> something worth to read maarn. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Madala >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Mothusi Tsitsing < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> YOUTH LEAGUE SOLD TO HIGHEST BIDDER >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can't speak independently after democratic centralism has >>>>>>>>> taken its course in ANCYL politics, one need to keep quite even >>>>>>>>> though you >>>>>>>>> know that money can buy everything… Revolutionary movement of Young >>>>>>>>> People >>>>>>>>> can be bought by highest bidder. Rebuilding process was just >>>>>>>>> contestation >>>>>>>>> of crass materialism and distortion of principle under guise of >>>>>>>>> revolutionary process. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just after appointment of Rebuilding task teams, some within this >>>>>>>>> tts received patronage through work, some permanently lived in hotels >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> given hired cars to defend personal gains of individuals within the >>>>>>>>> Progressive Youth Alliance, not principles, or what the organisation >>>>>>>>> stands >>>>>>>>> for. None of this leaders who are contesting for positions either >>>>>>>>> chairperson, secretary or any strategic position in our beloved youth >>>>>>>>> league care about age for the future of youth league. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you can ask this leaders one by one how old are they… true fact >>>>>>>>> of the matter you’re realize that future looks blink for future >>>>>>>>> leadership >>>>>>>>> of youth league and African National Congress. Most of leader who >>>>>>>>> occupier >>>>>>>>> position leadership recently in YL are one or two years to graduate >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> youth strata that’s a fact. Money or what as leader you need to be >>>>>>>>> conscience about the future of any constituency you’re about to lead >>>>>>>>> and is >>>>>>>>> through leadership where we can affirm that Youth organisation has >>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >>>>>>>>> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or >>>>>>>>> reply to this message. >>>>>>>>> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different >>>>>>>>> delivery options, pages, files and membership. >>>>>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >>>>>>>>> [email protected] . You don't have to >>>>>>>>> put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything >>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>> message part. 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