Re: CD burning. I have noticed that my success rate, in having the CDs work, goes up much higher, when I set my CD burning software to the lowest rate possible on the burn. Also, check the media that you are burning is compatible, rate wise, with your burner, and the CD drive you are using to install from.
- MJS -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: yellowdog-general Digest, Vol 11, Issue 30 Send yellowdog-general mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of yellowdog-general digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid) 2. Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Rick Thomas) 3. Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Bear Tooth) 4. software change of tty? (Stefan Jeglinski) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:04:24 -0400 From: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Someone on one of the Fedora lists posted this link : http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/mac-mini/ which talks about installing Fedora on Apple hardware. The page above is written, bless it!, as something of an introduction for non-apple-people to the oddities of installing a familiar system on strange hardware -- which is very much my position, despite three years of YDL, when it comes to putting FC4 onto our G3 iBook. (It's my wife's machine, and I seldom use it.) There are certainly a couple of things it tells you to do that I don't believe I did, or did properly, in my spectacularly unsuccessful attempts this past weekend -- such as not holding down C while booting FC4 Install-CD #1. (It did *seem* OK up to the end of that CD.) And I think I must have messed up the "Apple Bootstrap" partition somehow; at one point the machine wouldn't boot at all, and I had to re-install YDL 4.0 to get another start. I hope it isn't too dumb to ask this: could such failures have produced the specific show-stopper I reported here? That causes the machine to react to every CD after the first by sneering "That's not the right Fedora CD." I made two copies of every single CD, on different machines from different downloads -- plus two extra copies of #2 -- and got that sneer every time. Also, once I knew only one #1, out of all the CDs in both batches, did anything right, I tried doing FC4's disk check on each. The one that works took a very long time to vet itself. Every one of the others got a quick rejection, which seemed to be saying that some sum wasn't part of the CD's name; I'm sorry I didn't get it exactly -- I was getting punchy by then .... Anyway, let me ask this: is there any hope that the true problem is not with the CDs themselves, but with something inconspicuously wrong with my apparent success up till the end of CD #1? IOW, is it worth while to try once more, with either set of the same CDs, but following that page? Or had I might just as well download and burn all five ISOs yet another time?? -- Beartooth Senectoflatuloid, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:08:31 -0400 From: Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... To: Yellow Dog Linux General Discussion List <[email protected]> Cc: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Beartooth, Remember to check the md5 checksum of the ISOs after you download them, and before burning them. On macOS-X you do this with >>> openssl md5 thingie.iso where thingie.iso is the file you just downloaded. Look in <ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/iso/> the 4.0.1 iso's (the ones you want to use -- the 4.0 ISOs are broken) are called >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install1.iso 654,888K Document Tue, >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install2.iso 650,036K Document Tue, >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install3.iso 653,618K Document Tue, >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install4.iso 222,664K Document Tue, >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM Then md5 checksums are in file >>> md5sum 1K Document Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 7:37 PM Note that the checksum file refers to them as >>> yellowdog-4.0-orion-20050208-install1.iso etc. For some reason they drop the ".1" from the version name *but retain the date* which is the clue to their real identity. Go figure! Rick =========================================================== On Jul 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid wrote: > Someone on one of the Fedora lists posted this link : > > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/mac-mini/ > > which talks about installing Fedora on Apple hardware. > > The page above is written, bless it!, as something of an introduction > for > non-apple-people to the oddities of installing a familiar system on > strange hardware -- which is very much my position, despite three > years of > YDL, when it comes to putting FC4 onto our G3 iBook. (It's my wife's > machine, and I seldom use it.) > > There are certainly a couple of things it tells you to do that I don't > believe I did, or did properly, in my spectacularly unsuccessful > attempts > this past weekend -- such as not holding down C while booting FC4 > Install-CD #1. (It did *seem* OK up to the end of that CD.) > > And I think I must have messed up the "Apple Bootstrap" partition > somehow; > at one point the machine wouldn't boot at all, and I had to re-install > YDL > 4.0 to get another start. > > I hope it isn't too dumb to ask this: could such failures have produced > the specific show-stopper I reported here? > > That causes the machine to react to every CD after the first by > sneering > "That's not the right Fedora CD." > > I made two copies of every single CD, on different machines from > different > downloads -- plus two extra copies of #2 -- and got that sneer every > time. > > Also, once I knew only one #1, out of all the CDs in both batches, did > anything right, I tried doing FC4's disk check on each. The one that > works > took a very long time to vet itself. Every one of the others got a > quick > rejection, which seemed to be saying that some sum wasn't part of the > CD's > name; I'm sorry I didn't get it exactly -- I was getting punchy by > then .... > > Anyway, let me ask this: is there any hope that the true problem is not > with the CDs themselves, but with something inconspicuously wrong with > my > apparent success up till the end of CD #1? IOW, is it worth while to > try > once more, with either set of the same CDs, but following that page? > > Or had I might just as well download and burn all five ISOs yet another > time?? > > -- > Beartooth Senectoflatuloid, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert > Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about. > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:49:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bear Tooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... To: Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yellow Dog Linux General Discussion List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Rick Thomas wrote: > Hi Beartooth, > > Remember to check the md5 checksum of the ISOs after you download > them, and before burning them. Did that -- with downloads from RedHat. Then used K3B, telling it DAO and Verify Written, which I believe uses the md5; what I had used on the downloads was a sha1 check. > > Look in <ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/iso/> > > the 4.0.1 iso's (the ones you want to use -- the 4.0 ISOs are broken) are [....] Misapprehension: it's Fedora Core 4 I'm trying to install, not YellowDog, which I've been running for years -- exclusively (i.e., w/o OSX) since 3.0. But I tripped repeatedly over the apple bootstrap partition, and had to re-install YDL 4.0 (from Terrsaoft CDs, not downloads of mine) twice to make the machine bootable at all. And I'm now very thoroughly disgusted, though I'm not entirely sure with what. The never to be sufficiently accursed machine refuses to boot my triple-checked Fedora CDs -- the third such set -- at all, at all, even though it boots the YDL CDs fine. So I tried to update it, hoping whatever trouble it has might've gotten fixed in the meantime. yum update failed. Then I remembered a post here from Andrew on 7/16, saying : > I am confident all you need to do is to add an exclude= line in yum.conf: > > exclude=kernel-g5 kernel-g5-smp So I put that into /etc/yum.conf as bottom line of the first section, and tried again. It said right off it would install kernel 2.6.10-1.ydl.1.ppc -- and the test transaction succeeded this time. So it looks like the update problem is fixed; thanks, Andrew! That's a big consolation, especially if I do have to keep running what is essentially FC2 instead of FC4. The big question is whether the up to date YDL4 will manage to install, or even boot, FC4.ppc any better than before. Or more precisely, whether it's even worth trying. Any bets?? Frankly, the repair I *want* to do at this point requires only a good solid stump -- and a sixteen-pound sledghammer. -- Beartooth Old Fart, Double Retiree, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:24:17 -0400 From: Stefan Jeglinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: software change of tty? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" One is supposed to be able to switch consoles with a keystroke combination, usually clover-control-FkeyN IIRC. Sometimes this works, sometimes not, and seems to have varied over the years going back to the early Linux/PPC distributions I've run. It seems to vary from machine to machine, and from time to time on one machine. (in this case I'm not using the latest and greatest, we're talking older 604 machines with G3 upgrades, adb keyboards, YDL3/yum-updated, and runlevel 3 only). I'm less interested in hacking through and fixing the root cause. I'm more interested if there is a workaround, like a command I can do in one console that switches me to another. Does a suite of commands for tty manipulation exist? I aproposed tty and googled a bit, but came up blank. 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