I'll concur to this, particularly on Apple CD-RW drives. The one in my iBook seems to mince discs above a certain speed, to the point where only very new drives can even read them, and they generally fail checksums, such as what Fedora would be doing. /at 4x or so, it burns discs that even my Powermac 5400 reads fine, down to booting from them.
Cian On 29/07/05, MJS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Re: CD burning. > > I have noticed that my success rate, in having the CDs work, goes up much > higher, when I set my CD burning software to the lowest rate possible on the > burn. Also, check the media that you are burning is compatible, rate wise, > with your burner, and the CD drive you are using to install from. > > - MJS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: yellowdog-general Digest, Vol 11, Issue 30 > > Send yellowdog-general mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of yellowdog-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid) > 2. Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Rick Thomas) > 3. Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Bear Tooth) > 4. software change of tty? (Stefan Jeglinski) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:04:24 -0400 > From: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Someone on one of the Fedora lists posted this link : > > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/mac-mini/ > > which talks about installing Fedora on Apple hardware. > > The page above is written, bless it!, as something of an introduction for > non-apple-people to the oddities of installing a familiar system on > strange hardware -- which is very much my position, despite three years of > YDL, when it comes to putting FC4 onto our G3 iBook. (It's my wife's > machine, and I seldom use it.) > > There are certainly a couple of things it tells you to do that I don't > believe I did, or did properly, in my spectacularly unsuccessful attempts > this past weekend -- such as not holding down C while booting FC4 > Install-CD #1. (It did *seem* OK up to the end of that CD.) > > And I think I must have messed up the "Apple Bootstrap" partition somehow; > at one point the machine wouldn't boot at all, and I had to re-install YDL > 4.0 to get another start. > > I hope it isn't too dumb to ask this: could such failures have produced > the specific show-stopper I reported here? > > That causes the machine to react to every CD after the first by sneering > "That's not the right Fedora CD." > > I made two copies of every single CD, on different machines from different > downloads -- plus two extra copies of #2 -- and got that sneer every time. > > Also, once I knew only one #1, out of all the CDs in both batches, did > anything right, I tried doing FC4's disk check on each. The one that works > took a very long time to vet itself. Every one of the others got a quick > rejection, which seemed to be saying that some sum wasn't part of the CD's > name; I'm sorry I didn't get it exactly -- I was getting punchy by then .... > > Anyway, let me ask this: is there any hope that the true problem is not > with the CDs themselves, but with something inconspicuously wrong with my > apparent success up till the end of CD #1? IOW, is it worth while to try > once more, with either set of the same CDs, but following that page? > > Or had I might just as well download and burn all five ISOs yet another > time?? > > -- > Beartooth Senectoflatuloid, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert > Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:08:31 -0400 > From: Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... > To: Yellow Dog Linux General Discussion List > <[email protected]> > Cc: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Hi Beartooth, > > Remember to check the md5 checksum of the ISOs after you download them, > and before burning them. > > On macOS-X you do this with > > >>> openssl md5 thingie.iso > > where thingie.iso is the file you just downloaded. > > > Look in <ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/iso/> > > the 4.0.1 iso's (the ones you want to use -- the 4.0 ISOs are broken) > are called > > >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install1.iso 654,888K Document > Tue, > >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM > >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install2.iso 650,036K Document > Tue, > >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM > >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install3.iso 653,618K Document > Tue, > >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM > >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install4.iso 222,664K Document > Tue, > >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM > > > Then md5 checksums are in file > > >>> md5sum 1K Document Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 7:37 PM > > Note that the checksum file refers to them as > > >>> yellowdog-4.0-orion-20050208-install1.iso > > etc. For some reason they drop the ".1" from the version name *but > retain the date* which is the clue to their real identity. > > Go figure! > > Rick > > =========================================================== > On Jul 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid wrote: > > > Someone on one of the Fedora lists posted this link : > > > > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/mac-mini/ > > > > which talks about installing Fedora on Apple hardware. > > > > The page above is written, bless it!, as something of an introduction > > for > > non-apple-people to the oddities of installing a familiar system on > > strange hardware -- which is very much my position, despite three > > years of > > YDL, when it comes to putting FC4 onto our G3 iBook. (It's my wife's > > machine, and I seldom use it.) > > > > There are certainly a couple of things it tells you to do that I don't > > believe I did, or did properly, in my spectacularly unsuccessful > > attempts > > this past weekend -- such as not holding down C while booting FC4 > > Install-CD #1. (It did *seem* OK up to the end of that CD.) > > > > And I think I must have messed up the "Apple Bootstrap" partition > > somehow; > > at one point the machine wouldn't boot at all, and I had to re-install > > YDL > > 4.0 to get another start. > > > > I hope it isn't too dumb to ask this: could such failures have produced > > the specific show-stopper I reported here? > > > > That causes the machine to react to every CD after the first by > > sneering > > "That's not the right Fedora CD." > > > > I made two copies of every single CD, on different machines from > > different > > downloads -- plus two extra copies of #2 -- and got that sneer every > > time. > > > > Also, once I knew only one #1, out of all the CDs in both batches, did > > anything right, I tried doing FC4's disk check on each. The one that > > works > > took a very long time to vet itself. Every one of the others got a > > quick > > rejection, which seemed to be saying that some sum wasn't part of the > > CD's > > name; I'm sorry I didn't get it exactly -- I was getting punchy by > > then .... > > > > Anyway, let me ask this: is there any hope that the true problem is not > > with the CDs themselves, but with something inconspicuously wrong with > > my > > apparent success up till the end of CD #1? IOW, is it worth while to > > try > > once more, with either set of the same CDs, but following that page? > > > > Or had I might just as well download and burn all five ISOs yet another > > time?? > > > > -- > > Beartooth Senectoflatuloid, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert > > Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-general mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:49:01 -0400 (EDT) > From: Bear Tooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... > To: Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yellow Dog > Linux General Discussion List > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > Hi Beartooth, > > > > Remember to check the md5 checksum of the ISOs after you download > > them, and before burning them. > > Did that -- with downloads from RedHat. Then used K3B, > telling it DAO and Verify Written, which I believe uses the md5; > what I had used on the downloads was a sha1 check. > > > > Look in <ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/iso/> > > > > the 4.0.1 iso's (the ones you want to use -- the 4.0 ISOs are broken) are > [....] > Misapprehension: it's Fedora Core 4 I'm trying to install, > not YellowDog, which I've been running for years -- exclusively > (i.e., w/o OSX) since 3.0. > > But I tripped repeatedly over the apple bootstrap partition, > and had to re-install YDL 4.0 (from Terrsaoft CDs, not downloads of > mine) twice to make the machine bootable at all. > > And I'm now very thoroughly disgusted, though I'm not > entirely sure with what. > > The never to be sufficiently accursed machine > refuses to boot my triple-checked Fedora CDs -- the third such set > -- at all, at all, even though it boots the YDL CDs fine. > > So I tried to update it, hoping whatever trouble it has > might've gotten fixed in the meantime. yum update failed. Then I > remembered a post here from Andrew on 7/16, saying : > > > I am confident all you need to do is to add an exclude= line in > yum.conf: > > > > exclude=kernel-g5 kernel-g5-smp > > So I put that into /etc/yum.conf as bottom line of the first > section, and tried again. It said right off it would install kernel > 2.6.10-1.ydl.1.ppc -- and the test transaction succeeded this time. > > So it looks like the update problem is fixed; thanks, > Andrew! That's a big consolation, especially if I do have to keep > running what is essentially FC2 instead of FC4. > > The big question is whether the up to date YDL4 will manage > to install, or even boot, FC4.ppc any better than before. Or more > precisely, whether it's even worth trying. Any bets?? > > Frankly, the repair I *want* to do at this point requires > only a good solid stump -- and a sixteen-pound sledghammer. > > -- > Beartooth Old Fart, Double Retiree, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert > Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:24:17 -0400 > From: Stefan Jeglinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: software change of tty? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > One is supposed to be able to switch consoles with a keystroke > combination, usually clover-control-FkeyN IIRC. Sometimes this works, > sometimes not, and seems to have varied over the years going back to > the early Linux/PPC distributions I've run. It seems to vary from > machine to machine, and from time to time on one machine. (in this > case I'm not using the latest and greatest, we're talking older 604 > machines with G3 upgrades, adb keyboards, YDL3/yum-updated, and > runlevel 3 only). > > I'm less interested in hacking through and fixing the root cause. I'm > more interested if there is a workaround, like a command I can do in > one console that switches me to another. Does a suite of commands for > tty manipulation exist? I aproposed tty and googled a bit, but came > up blank. > > > Stefan Jeglinski > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' > > > End of yellowdog-general Digest, Vol 11, Issue 30 > ************************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' > -- ------------------------- "We're busy running out of time" _______________________________________________ yellowdog-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
