Hi Chris:
I've been thinking about your problem and was keeping in mind what you already reported. There is an option I failed to bring up regarding the installation of YDL as I just became aware in the last few hours as to how to invoke it.

The YDL installer allows installation of a variety of different kind of kernels for different kinds of environments. One of these specially designed kernels is a special kernel which allows YDL to boot from a firewire drive... this is exactly the kernel you need installed onto that firewire drive you wish to run YDL from. Following this method means a complete reinstall as the previous kernel wasn't doing the "job", meaning it wasn't working, for you anyway.

Procedure: The YDL disk is starting up and the screen with white lettering on black background appears. Just at that point where there is a pause which allows you to type something. Type this:

install firewire

After that is done installation proceeds almost as normal; the difference will be that a special kernel will be installed onto the drive and be the basis of your installation. If before you type, install firewire, you want to view what options there exist with the YDL installer, type the TAB key and the available options will come up.

I hope this works for you...

Good Luck ...

On Mar 17, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

Ok.  Perhaps I should have asked this question the first time.

Did you download YDL 4.1? or did you buy it?

If you downloaded it: Did you remember to check the md5 values against the value provided by TSS — for each iso (before you burned the iso onto the CD)? Do or did you know how to do this and where to execute the md5 test from?

If you don't mind you can send me a snapshot of the screen you are discussing directly to me. I am not an engineer, but I'll attempt to point out what I can.

On Mar 17, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Nunu wrote:

I am booting by holding down the option key. Even when I let it load the default choice, it still brings me to the "enter "mac-boot" to proceed with booting" screen and then freezes. I'm never given the option to load the KDE or Gnome environment. Would a screenshot help? I can tell you that right before the prompt it says "Welcome to open firmware" and that it's black text on white background.


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:45:41 -0600
From: Christopher Nunu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Booting issues
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Thank you, I partitioned the drive as you said, and Yellow Dog
installed without a hitch. Unfortunately I'm not quite out of the woods
yet. When I  boot from my firewire drive, I enter "l" to load from
Linux and it brings me to a screen where I need enter "mac-boot" to
proceed with booting or "shut-down" to shut down. But from there the
screen freezes. I can't type anything, so i can't make the computer
shut down except by pressing the power button. I tried booting from my
brother's G4 iMac and it skips the second screen (where my G5 iMac is
having issues) but then I get a message saying "Kernel Panic, tried to
stop init!". What's going on?

Thank you for your time.


On 16 mar 2006, at 13.00,
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:39:08 -0600
From: Christopher Nunu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: trouble installing Yellow Dog Linux
To: [email protected]
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I'm having trouble creating the partitions for Yellow Dog. I own a G5 iMac (PowerPC) with 1GB of RAM, and am trying to install Yellow Dog on a LaCie 40GB Mobile Hard Drive brand new, no previous OS installed on it. The drive is formatted as Mac OS Extended (not journaled). When I
boot from the Yellow Dog install disk, and enter install firewire at
the "boot" prompt, i get all the way to the manual partitioning with
Disk  Druid. It lets me partition the Apple Bootstrap (although I
notice that it partitions at 8mb, even though I told it to partition as
1mb. When I try to create the swap partition at 512mb, it gives me a
"cannot allocate partition error". The same thing happens when I try to
make the root partition.

Anyone know how to correct this, preferably FREELY? I know I could use iPartition to make the partitions for me, but spending $50 on something
I'll probably use once is not exactly appealing. Do I need to format
the drive in some other format (such as FAT32), or is there another
way?



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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:40:07 -0500
From: Derick Centeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Discussion List for New Yellow Dog Linux Users
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Hi Chris:
Generally, before you install YDL (Yellow Dog Linux) you need to format
the drive onto which YDL will exist.

If only YDL will exist on that drive then before you run the installer
you need to boot from the Apple System Disk which came with your
computer. In other words before we get to do anything involving Linux
or YDL we need to format the drive using Apple's Disk Utility which
resides within the System Disk (if you have the DVD form of that System
Disk which comprises the Hardware Test and everything else for OS X
otherwise you'll have a string of CDs; either way the program to use
will be Apple's Disk Utility regardless and it should see the entire drive you intend to dedicate to YDL. As nothing else but YDL will be on that drive all you need to do is select it to create 1 partition and
select the kind of partition called Free Space.  It is important to
note here that although Disk Utility calls it Free Space, in actually
that is the format structure upon which YDL will use to create ext3
partition from that free space.

After Disk Utility creates what it considers to be Free Space if the
Drive was mounted, it will disappear from the desktop. OS X will ask you to mount the drive, choose instead to ignore that request; in other words ignore the drive. After Disk Utility has finished creating the Free Partition, and you've closed that application. Then boot from the
YDL installation disk and tell YDL to format that newly formatted
drive. Be sure that you can recognize which drive you are formatting
and read the partition maps of which drive you are telling the YDL
installer (anaconda) to turn into a Linux or YDL only disk.

It might be a good idea to review the installation manual before
proceeding further.
If you need to review a manual regarding the instructions just download
it (for free) from here:

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/

I expect that the rest should be smooth sailing from that point.
Good Luck...



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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:49:08 -0500
From: Derick Centeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting issues
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Hi Chris:
Well, something is moving along in a positive direction, and that at
least ... is a good thing.

Instead of booting the way you described, why not just press the option
key just as your computer is booting up?  This will bring up a series
of images representing all the drives the computer sees both OS X and
Linux (after the YDL installation has successfully completed of course;
you can recognize it as a Penguin sitting down along the lower right
side of the HD icon).  You should wait until all the drives available
are listed; that is, wait for the cursor to return to normal. On that screen there is also the option for you to have the computer recognize more newly attached drives (that button looks like a circle pointing to itself); this is useful in case you turned on an external drive just a
wee bit after the computer already was booting up.  In that case,
pressing that button forces the computer to review again whatever is
attached to it's ports as an external HD.

Anyway, after the cursor is back to normal in that setting then  you
select the drive you want the computer to boot from at that moment (you
can use the arrow keys, or move the mouse, or move your fingers along
the trackpad) and then press the return/enter key and you should be on
your way booting into that OS.  The rest takes care of itself.

If you choose the Linux drive, you'll see linux startup and an option
offering you to enter a selection from the keyboard. My suggestion is
that you don't enter anything; a script will take over enter the word
"linux" and continue with the boot process.  Then you select which
environment you want: KDE or Gnome.

Good Luck ...

On Mar 16, 2006, at 7:45 PM, Christopher Nunu wrote:

Thank you, I partitioned the drive as you said, and Yellow Dog
installed without a hitch. Unfortunately I'm not quite out of the
woods yet. When I  boot from my firewire drive, I enter "l" to load
from Linux and it brings me to a screen where I need enter "mac-boot"
to proceed with booting or "shut-down" to shut down. But from there
the screen freezes. I can't type anything, so i can't make the
computer shut down except by pressing the power button. I tried
booting from my brother's G4 iMac and it skips the second screen
(where my G5 iMac is having issues) but then I get a message saying
"Kernel Panic, tried to stop init!". What's going on?

Thank you for your time.


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