I don't want to fuel a flame war so I'll shut up after this message!
BTW, I do appreciate Steve from BareBones adding his thoughts and I
don't mind him picking on me! It's nice to know the developer is
listening to the list even if I don't like some of their design
choices. In my post I explicitly stated that adding every feature
would be a bad idea...I get that, as do most people on this list, I
suspect. I also understand the Henry Ford quote someone threw
out...but in the end of the day, it's the users who buy the software
and need to live with it and often they do have reasonable use cases
the developer hasn't thought of.
For the people who complain it doesn't have XXX feature, did you only
notice this after your free 30 day trial period was over? There really
In response to Scott, I did try out Yojimbo and I evaluated it
against at least 3 other applications. None were perfect, but Yojimbo
was the by far the best of the bunch (at the time) so I happily
forked over my $39 and would have paid twice that without regret. I
said in my post that Yojimbo was a great product and a good value.
I'm not unhappy with my purchase but using a product for 30 days and
almost 2 years are two different things and my workflow and
requirements have evolved. Asking for new/different features isn't
the same thing as complaining. Buying a piece of software and being
in love with it are two different things...it's a purchase, not a
marriage! And unlike my car, which also has things I wish were
different, software isn't static and I know BareBones will be
changing it -- Toyota isn't going to send me an upgrade for my car.
So letting them know what those things are has value both to me and
to BareBones. If they choose a different design choice and I don't
like, I can go elsewhere...the ability to export from Yojimbo was one
of the "must have" features I evaluated.
for the people asking for nested folders, how could tags not help you
instead? instead off
As to Scott's suggestion to use tags to make up for nested folders:
that's a kludge, especially with Yojimbo's current lack of good tag
management or smart collections. I use that method on Gmail and it
works fine until you have a lot of categories then it gets kludgey.
I'm glad to hear those are high priorities for BareBones. I mentioned
the use case for nested folders in my post -- the lack of nested
folders makes the drop dock too unwieldy if you have a lot of
folders. I've read David Allen and practice GTD (as someone on the
list brought up) but I still need more than a few folders (or tags).
If my primary means of adding data to Yojimbo is the drop dock, and I
want to categorize data *when it's added* then Yojimbo's current
interface makes that hard. Find me a better way of adding data to
Yojimbo and having it tagged automatically, and maybe I won't need
nested folders. I use Yep for PDFs and I don't miss nested folders
because Yep's tagging support is first class and doesn't get in the
way of my workflow. (Yes, yes, I get it that Yojimbo will never have
nested folders!)
Cheers to all,
--Rhet
On May 1, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote:
For the people who complain it doesn't have XXX feature, did you only
notice this after your free 30 day trial period was over? There really
is no logical reason someone can complain they bought the product but
can't use it effectively because it didn't have XXX.
For those who sent Yojimbo to the trash because it didn't have XXX,
what product did you move to instead? What was it lacking that Yojimbo
has? Did you tell the developers of that product you were going to
trash it because it didn't have YYY that Yojimbo did? I would love to
hear the "success" stories of people who trashed Yojimbo because
something was "better."
My point is, no one has any excuse to say they didn't know Yojimbo
couldn't meet their needs before buying it, and that any one product
will meet every feature they demand^H^H^H^H^H^Hrequest.
Scott
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