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--0-1193265811-1227836435=:3473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Friends, berikut KESAKSIAN teman baik saya, seorang wanita Malaysia di Kual= a Lumpur, tentang peng-HARAM-an Yoga oleh ulama Malaysia, enjoy !=0A=0A+ = =0A=0ADear Leo,=0A=0AJust a quick note. I haven't been dropping in on Milis= SI for quite a while, but since I miss reading your quips and discourse, I= did yesterday and got onto some postings by some of SI veterans about the = latest gaffe on Yoga over here. =0A=0AThis is just one of the many stupidit= ies inflicted upon us by half-baked religious bigots. =0A=0AAs for me and t= he likes of me, we don't waste a breath discussing it, we just roll our eye= s to heaven as we know that we live in different worlds and there is no poi= nt foaming at the mouth over it. =0A=0ABut on the one hand, I actually do f= eel so pained by it all and at an earlier point in my life I just might cry= my heart out in frustration. =0A=0AThe Yoga ban is nothing but ignorance, = also small mindedness, and jealousies that while all Muslim women go about = with their heads covered (never mind if the covering is so bejewelled and t= he face so dolled up), there are Malay women who don't (how dare they?) and= in fact go prancing about doing Yoga and stuff and enjoying it and earning= good money from teaching it (there are many exclusive Yoga centres operate= d by 'modern' Malay women here who have nothing to do with Hindu philosophy= ). =0A=0AIn the end it is the same small mindedness of puny human beings no= doubt they seem to come from one particular religion (I suspect the latest= carnage in Mumbai has to do with them too, as in so many other places in t= he world). =0A=0ABut Leo, what I am dismayed about, which prompts me to wri= te this time, is the spirit and tone of what I read in SI. I hope I am wron= g, but I sense again this unspoken disdain about things Malaysian.... =0A= =0ADoes spirituality have national borders and boundaries? =0A=0ACan we not= be supportive of each other if we know any better? =0A=0ACan we go a bit b= eyond merely passing remarks and instead be educational and uplifting? God = knows we need it at this time in the world's cycle.=0A=0ADaisy=0A=0A+=0A=0A= KOMENTAR SAYA:=0A=0AThanks Daisy,=0A=0AIt's nice to hear from you. =0A=0AAc= tually Indonesians began to be "outraged" en masse exactly one day after th= e announcement by Malay ulemmas or whomever it was who pronounced the haram= stuff. =0A=0AIn my opinion, liberal and open-minded Indonesians have this = kind of "perception" about Malaysia where the ulemmas are so unreasonable. = =0A=0ASo, when things turned rather badly as when the Indonesian Parliament= passed the "Pornography Law", then one of the reasons cited for condemning= the law was:=0A=0A"Even Malaysia does NOT have a law like the Pornography = Law".=0A=0ANow, that kind of reasoning only justifiable when we accept the = underlying assumption MANY Indonesians hold about Malaysia as the place whe= re "funny" things happen. =0A=0AIt follows that If Malaysia does NOT have a= Pornography Law, then Indonesia is NOT justified to have one. Reason: It i= s NOT funny enough, or something like that.=0A=0ASure, spirituality has NO = border, it spans from the North Pole to the South, and has NO color too... = =0A=0ANo color=0ANo time span=0ANothing in between=0AOnly You up there and = Me down here who are=C2=A0=0AALL OF US=0A=0AThere is nothing haram or halal= whatsoever, only CHOICES. =0A=0AWe choose whatever we wish to do with our = own lives.=0A=0AThe stupid fatwa is only a memoriam, something to be record= ed that ONCE we had such, just that.=0A=0AAll the Best,=0ALeo=0AMilis Spiri= tual Indonesia <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spiritual-indonesia>.=0A=0A= =0A=0A Get your new Email address!=0AGrab the Email name you've al= ways wanted before someone else does!=0Ahttp://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/ne= wdomains/aa/ --0-1193265811-1227836435=:3473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></he= ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;= font-size:12pt"><DIV>=0A<DIV>=0A<DIV>Friends, berikut KESAKSIAN teman baik = saya, seorang wanita Malaysia di Kuala Lumpur, tentang peng-HARAM-an Yoga o= leh ulama Malaysia, enjoy !<BR><BR>+ <BR><BR>Dear Leo,<BR><BR>Just a quick = note. I haven't been dropping in on Milis SI for quite a while, but since I= miss reading your quips and discourse, I did yesterday and got onto some p= ostings by some of SI veterans about the latest gaffe on Yoga over here. <B= R><BR>This is just one of the many stupidities inflicted upon us by half-ba= ked religious bigots. <BR><BR>As for me and the likes of me, we don't waste= a breath discussing it, we just roll our eyes to heaven as we know that we= live in different worlds and there is no point foaming at the mouth over i= t. <BR><BR>But on the one hand, I actually do feel so pained by it all and = at an earlier point in my life I just might cry my heart out in frustration= . <BR><BR>The Yoga ban is nothing but ignorance, also small mindedness, and= jealousies that while all Muslim women go about with their heads covered (never mind if the cove= ring is so bejewelled and the face so dolled up), there are Malay women who= don't (how dare they?) and in fact go prancing about doing Yoga and stuff = and enjoying it and earning good money from teaching it (there are many exc= lusive Yoga centres operated by 'modern' Malay women here who have nothing = to do with Hindu philosophy). <BR><BR>In the end it is the same small minde= dness of puny human beings no doubt they seem to come from one particular r= eligion (I suspect the latest carnage in Mumbai has to do with them too, as= in so many other places in the world). <BR><BR>But Leo, what I am dismayed= about, which prompts me to write this time, is the spirit and tone of what= I read in SI. I hope I am wrong, but I sense again this unspoken disdain a= bout things Malaysian.... <BR><BR>Does spirituality have national borders a= nd boundaries? <BR><BR>Can we not be supportive of each other if we know any better? <BR><BR>Can we go a bit beyond merely passing remarks and= instead be educational and uplifting? God knows we need it at this time in= the world's cycle.<BR><BR>Daisy<BR><BR>+<BR><BR>KOMENTAR SAYA:<BR><BR>Than= ks Daisy,<BR><BR>It's nice to hear from you. <BR><BR>Actually Indonesians b= egan to be "outraged" en masse exactly one day after the announcement by Ma= lay ulemmas or whomever it was who pronounced the haram stuff. <BR><BR>In m= y opinion, liberal and open-minded Indonesians have this kind of "perceptio= n" about Malaysia where the ulemmas are so unreasonable. <BR><BR>So, when t= hings turned rather badly as when the Indonesian Parliament passed the "Por= nography Law", then one of the reasons cited for condemning the law was:<BR= ><BR>"Even Malaysia does NOT have a law like the Pornography Law".<BR><BR>N= ow, that kind of reasoning only justifiable when we accept the underlying a= ssumption MANY Indonesians hold about Malaysia as the place where "funny" things happen. <BR><BR>It follows that If Malaysia does NOT have a= Pornography Law, then Indonesia is NOT justified to have one. Reason: It i= s NOT funny enough, or something like that.<BR><BR>Sure, spirituality has N= O border, it spans from the North Pole to the South, and has NO color too..= . <BR><BR>No color<BR>No time span<BR>Nothing in between<BR>Only You up the= re and Me down here who are <BR>ALL OF US<BR><BR>There is nothing hara= m or halal whatsoever, only CHOICES. <BR><BR>We choose whatever we wish to = do with our own lives.<BR><BR>The stupid fatwa is only a memoriam, somethin= g to be recorded that ONCE we had such, just that.<BR><BR>All the Best,<BR>= Leo<BR>Milis Spiritual Indonesia <<A onmousedown=3D'UntrustedLink.bootst= rap($(this), "5cb5cf237df71d20e16e22ef9b3c57d4", event)' href=3D"http://gro= ups.yahoo.com/group/spiritual-indonesia" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FO= NT color=3D#3b5998><SPAN>http://groups.yahoo.com/gr</SPAN><WBR></WBR><SPAN class=3Dword_break></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3D#810081>oup/spiritual-indon= esia</FONT></A>>.</DIV>=0A<DIV><BR><IMG height=3D404 src=3D"http://www.b= ikramyoga.com/Yoga/images/IMG_0571c.jpg" width=3D544></DIV></DIV></DIV></di= v><br>=0A=0A=0A=0A <hr size=3D1> <a href=3D"http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/= mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomai= ns/aa/"> Get your preferred Email name! </a> <br>=0ANow you can @ymail.com = and @rocketmail.com.</body></html> --0-1193265811-1227836435=:3473--
