If I understand you correctly the two methods you are talking about are:

1. analytical analysis of emptiness, and/or logically identifying an
inherently existent 'I' to see its empty nature.
2. shikantaza (empty mind/clear mind)

If these are the 2 methods you're talking about, IN MY OPINION they can't be

Number 1 (both examples) requires exercising your rational
(analytic/small/monkey) mind.  Doing so usually prevents you from
experiencing your Buddha (pure/big/universal) mind.

Number 2 requires the cessation of your rational mind and allows you to
experience your Buddha mind.

From: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of tony.humphreys
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:32 AM
Subject: [Zen] To analyse or not...?

I really enjoy (for want of a better description) my practice, whether
its Vipassana or an attempt at Shikontaza. The problem I have is I
frequently feel the desire to analytically meditate on Emptiness. For
instance the Tibetan method of logically trying to identify an
inherently existent 'I' then seeing its empty nature. 

How can we reconcile the two methods, they are so pole apart as to
seem irreconcilable?

All advice gratefully received!



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