Tony, If I understand you correctly the two methods you are talking about are:
1. analytical analysis of emptiness, and/or logically identifying an inherently existent 'I' to see its empty nature. 2. shikantaza (empty mind/clear mind) If these are the 2 methods you're talking about, IN MY OPINION they can't be resolved. Number 1 (both examples) requires exercising your rational (analytic/small/monkey) mind. Doing so usually prevents you from experiencing your Buddha (pure/big/universal) mind. Number 2 requires the cessation of your rational mind and allows you to experience your Buddha mind. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tony.humphreys Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:32 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] To analyse or not...? I really enjoy (for want of a better description) my practice, whether its Vipassana or an attempt at Shikontaza. The problem I have is I frequently feel the desire to analytically meditate on Emptiness. For instance the Tibetan method of logically trying to identify an inherently existent 'I' then seeing its empty nature. How can we reconcile the two methods, they are so pole apart as to seem irreconcilable? All advice gratefully received! Regards, Tony... __________ NOD32 3394 (20080827) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
