Thanks for showing that to me Steve, I also like the quote.  For me meditation 
and seeking the truth is like this.  I believe the truth is in us all, and it 
is hidden behind a veil, and that veil is our own thoughts, by stilling my 
thoughts, I start to see things more clearer, and I start to become 
more enlightened.  The enlightenment I get leads me in the right direction to 
add or change behaviors in myself that either separate me or brings me 
closer to the  truth.  It does not happen all at once.  But with continues 
practice, and acting on the enlightenment I have already receive, I move little 
by little toward harmony or oneness with the truth.  I do not feel I know it 
all, matter of  fact, I know very little when comes to the big scheme of 
things, but what I do know for sure is I am walking down a path that I believe 
in bettering me.

Brett
http://www.pbase.com/brett1963

--- On Thu, 1/27/11, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote: 
 
From: SteveW <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 8:45 PM




--- In [email protected], Brett Corbin <brettalancorbin@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Thank you for explanning that to me.  It seems to me that buddhism and 
> Zen has almost as much division as christianity.  I guess it is just the 
> nature of how things work.  It starts with a truth and then people start to 
> argue about what that truth really means, they divide and start another sect 
> and after awhile the same thing starts all over again.
> 
> Brett
> http://www.pbase.com/brett1963

  Hi Brett. One way to get a handle on the differences of opinion in 
  Buddhism is to consider the different views on Emptiness, or 
  Shunyata. The Theravada asserted the emptiness of ego, but really 
  did not go any farther than that. Mahayana and Vajrayana assert 
  that emptiness applies to all phenomena. Here are the definitions 
  given Emptiness by the major schools:
  -Emptiness of Inherent Existence (Madhyamaka, Geluk-Pa)
  -Emptiness of Subject and Object (Yogacara, Nyingma-Pa)
  -Emptiness of Other (Tathagatagarbha, Shentong)
  In my opinion, as well as Huang Po's, one should not confuse 
  philosophy with Zen. All explanations, imo, miss the mark.
  Steve
  "In truth, our Original Buddha-Nature is nothing that can be
   understood. It is glorious and mysterious peacefulness, and that
   is all that can be said. You, yourself, must awaken to it, 
   fathoming its depths. That which is before you is it in its
   entirety, with nothing whatsoever lacking." -Huang Po
>
>




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