Bill, Thank you for explanning that to me. It seems to me that buddhism and Zen has almost as much division as christianity. I guess it is just the nature of how things work. It starts with a truth and then people start to argue about what that truth really means, they divide and start another sect and after awhile the same thing starts all over again.
Brett http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 --- On Thu, 1/27/11, Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote: From: Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org> Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:08 PM Brett, I don't really know if John Lennon practiced Zen Buddhism or not, but I think not. He was more into Hindi as far as I can tell. But, most Eastern religions have a core that's basically the same - and his song mentions a lot of those things. I don't consider zen a sub-set of Zen Buddhism as do most. I consider zen just a direct expierience of reality and independent of Buddhism. Zen Buddhism to me is just a Buddhsit expression of zen, using Bhuddist terms, tenets, precepts, etc... But be advised this is just my interpretation and not the usual view. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin <brettalancorbin@...> wrote: > > Thank you for the song Bill. Do you think John Lennon practiced Zen? > > Brett > http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 > > --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist? > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 10:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brett, > This is what zen is: > > Imagine there's no heaven > It's easy if you try > No hell below us > Above us only sky > Imagine all the people > Living for today... > > Imagine there's no countries > It isn't hard to do > Nothing to kill or die for > And no religion too > Imagine all the people > Living life in peace... > > You may say I'm a dreamer > But I'm not the only one > I hope someday you'll join us > And the world will be as one > > Imagine no possessions > I wonder if you can > No need for greed or hunger > A brotherhood of man > Imagine all the people > Sharing all the world... > > You may say I'm a dreamer > But I'm not the only one > I hope someday you'll join us > And the world will live as one > > John Lennon > Zen is like this except there is no imagining - only experiencing...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin brettalancorbin@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > I have been reading a lot of the post here, and find them interesting, > > > but have little to say about the subjects since I know very little about > > > zen meditation. I meditate daily but the terms used in this group throw > > > me off. A question I have is, in zen practice, is it the belief that > > > buddha is a god? > > > > > > Brett > > > http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 > > > > > > Hi Brett. No, Buddha isn't regarded as a god, or at least I don't regard > > > Buddha as a god. Zen really doesn't preoccupy itself with metaphysical > > > speculations. Zen is: > > "A special transmission > > Outside of the scriptures, > > No reliance on words or letters, > > Looking deeply into one's true nature, > > A direct pointing to the heart of humanity." > > Steve > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
