--- In [email protected], "seacrofter001" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi ED. Yes, there do seem to be parallels. Solids also seem to
> > > share characteristics of what Buddhists call "Discursive-Types".
>
> Yes.
>
> Definitions of discursive on the Web:
> * dianoetic: proceeding to a conclusion by reason or argument rather
> than intuition * digressive: (of e.g. speech and writing) tending to
> depart from the main point or cover a wide range of subjects; "amusingly
> digressive with satirical thrusts at women's fashions among other
> things"; "a rambling discursive book"; "his excursive remarks"; "a
> rambling speech about this and that"
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> o discursively - in a rambling manner
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> o means to wonder from one topic to another; to skim over
> apparently unconnected
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> > The important thing, imo, is to keep in mind that all such
> > systems of classification are only provisionally useful as
> > upaya, and should not be reified into self-contained boxes,
> > should not be reified into a "self".
>
> Yes.
>
> Also, different classification have different objectives.
>
> The classification of vital/solid/peculiar in
> http://www.shivayoga.org/html/vitalpeculiarsolid.html
> <http://www.shivayoga.org/html/vitalpeculiarsolid.html> corresponds to
> body/mind/feelings focus of the individual.
>
> In general, studying the characteristics of solid and peculiar types
> (and vital too) can be quite helpful to men and women struggling to
> understand the attitudes and behaviors of their partners.
>
>
>
> > The advantage of the
> > Buddhist schemata is that it just focuses on Aversion, Attraction,
> > Confusion, Intellectual Analysis, Clear Seeing and Trust.
> > These are the basic ways in which the mind react to phenomena.
>
> This (discursive) classification is beautiful and pertinent to the
> objective of understanding the mind's reaction to phenomena.
>
>
> > All of the other traits that can be associated with these are
> > secondary, imo. Intellectual Analysis is associated with the
> > Discursive-Type. The Discursive-Type is obsessed with logical
> > analysis and conceptual classifications. But, as Plotinus noted,
> > brilliant intellectual anaysis can never apprehend the uncompounded.
>
> Yes.
>
>
> > Logical anaysis creates conceptual boxes and dividing-lines where
> > none actually exist. They are very useful from the relative point
> > of view, but they are ultimately misleading, imo.
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> > It all comes back
> > to The 3 Signs of Being: All phenomena are fluid, not static.
> > Nothing has separate, independant, contained, inherent self-
> > existence. If we do not realize the first two, we suffer. If we
> > do realize the first two, then we can rest in the Unborn.
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> > All
> > upaya are provisional rafts for crossing the stream. Even the
> > preceding sentence is just upaya. Who wants to cross the stream?
> > Steve
>
> Yes.
>
> --ED
>
>
>
> > --- In [email protected], "ED" seacrofter001@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > > Replace
> > > 'Hate type' with 'solid type'
> > > 'Greed type' with 'peculiar type',
> > > then, does the following make sense to you?
> > > --ED
>
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/message/22744
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/message/22744>
>
Hey ED. I've noticed that you like Kashmir Shaivism. A Shaivite
work I read some years ago might interest you. It is entitled
The Vijnana Bhairava Tantra. It is a list of 112 Shaivite
meditational practices.
Steve
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