After sitting for about 1 year in Burmese and quarter-lotus, I was finally
able to get my legs into full lotus for 1 second.

After about another year, I could sustain it for a 25 minute sit.  After
another year, I could do a couple periods a day in full lotus.  Now, after
moving to california, I can do full lotus only very for 5 or 10 minutes,
except for times when I've been sitting more often than average.  Not
sitting with the sanga as regularly and I think also biking a lot have
tightened up my hips.

There are some stretches that were helpful, something like these:
http://www.tricycle.com/p/2060

The key to full lotus is really your hips more so than your knees; if your
knees are being twisted too much, then your hips aren't flexible enough, and
you should slow down.

I will say that the sitting in full lotus is noticably lighter than even
half lotus.  I felt like i was sort of floating along, definitely less
distractable, and more like a World Honored One.

Our bodies and our minds are not two distinct things, so it makes sense that
posture affects thinking.  How could posture not affect the brain?

I think of Buddhism as an experimental practice, and the benefits are
available for us to try without necessarily having a mental model of why the
benefits are there.

--Chris

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Brett Corbin <[email protected]>wrote:

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> I respect the ability some people have to be able to get into the lotus
> position, If I tried I would certainly be more sober, but I would also be
> screaming in pain:)
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> Brett
> http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
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> --- On *Tue, 2/8/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]>* wrote:
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> From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging and zazen
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 8:02 PM
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> kristy,
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> The lotus position gives you a stable posture, not too tight nor too loose.
> That makes you sober, not sleepy. If you don't believe, look at what Buddha
> and Bill do. Then you will be convinced.
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> Anthony
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> --- On Wed, 9/2/11, Kristy McClain 
> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
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> > From: Kristy McClain 
> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
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> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging  and zazen
> > To: 
> > [email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > Date: Wednesday, 9 February, 2011, 9:11 AM
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> > other prescribed pose), can faciliate "clear mind"
> > more efficiently?  k
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> > --- On Tue, 2/8/11, Anthony Wu
> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
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> > From: Anthony Wu 
> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging and zazen
> > To: 
> > [email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 5:34 PM
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> > posture of Buddha himself. However, I will never compete
> > with Buddha, so am satisfied with my slow progress.
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> > Anthony
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> > --- On Wed, 9/2/11, ED
> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
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> > From: ED 
> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> >
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Aging and zazen
> > To: 
> > [email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > Date: Wednesday, 9 February, 2011, 6:47 AM
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> > of the sitting posture is to facilitate clear mind.
> > However, there is power in group practice when all are in
> > traditional sitting postures, thought not
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> > --ED
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> > [email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
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> > Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
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> > > Kristy,
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> > > I don't deny that posture is very important for
> > achieving good sitting results. However, I am restricted by
> > my severe arthritis, so I can only sit on a chair. My
> > experiences show that as long as I can keep a clear mind
> > without too much daydreaming or drowsiness, I will feel
> > comfortable and happy after the sitting. Zen Master Seung
> > Sahn had a (western) student, who was like me, unable to sit
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