So smack me! And, after you've smacked me, it shall be as if you'd never smacked me, at all? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill!" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:38 AM Subject: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness
> Dana, > > When I am in the dharma hall and listen to spoken dharma, or when I am in > my study and reading written dharma, or when I am walking along a path and > experiencing living dharma I am listening to or reading or experiencing > dharma at that moment in time. > > When I leave the dharma hall and go down to the pool hall to shoot some > nine-ball, I shoot nine-ball. I don't think back about the dharma talk. > > Like it says in the movie by the same name: 'That was then - This is now.' > Actually is all now. The memory of the dharma talk is a memory now, it's > not a dharma talk now. > > ...Bill! > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie3@...> wrote: >> >> The Wikipedia article on Mindfulness: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness_(Buddhism) >> makes a point that, at first blush, seems to run counter to Zen's >> insistence >> upon awareness of 'just here, just now.' In discussing the etymology and >> history of use of the Sanskrit, Pali, and Chinese terms usually >> translated >> as 'mindfulness,' it stresses that they include significant reference to >> memory, recall, recollection, and other mental faculties related to >> awareness of the past. >> >> Any thoughts on how to reconcile this apparent tension? >> >> I have been thinking along these lines: When I hear dharma taught, I >> grasp >> it, according to the level of my understanding. But, when I leave the >> dharma >> hall, I 'should' endeavor not to leave my understanding behind. I >> 'should' >> endeavor to bring it forward with me, into each moment, so that it >> informs >> my 'in this moment' awareness of right thought, right conduct, right >> speech., Doing so is right mindfulness of the dharma. >> >> Bill, you may find this issue pointless, as you do not consider zen >> Buddhist, or the EFP a part of zen (If I understand you correctly). But, >> for >> those of us who are not quite so iconoclastic <grin>, do any of you have >> any >> thoughts/comments on my proposed reconciliation? >> >> Dana >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > __________ NOD32 5861 (20110210) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
