Dana,
You'll be Dana NOW! - with a red and stinging cheek smarting (pardon the pun) from the pain. You won't be Dana pouting in the corner angry at Bill! and plotting your revenge. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie3@...> wrote: > > So smack me! And, after you've smacked me, it shall be as if you'd never > smacked me, at all? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:38 AM > Subject: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness > > > > Dana, > > > > When I am in the dharma hall and listen to spoken dharma, or when I am in > > my study and reading written dharma, or when I am walking along a path and > > experiencing living dharma I am listening to or reading or experiencing > > dharma at that moment in time. > > > > When I leave the dharma hall and go down to the pool hall to shoot some > > nine-ball, I shoot nine-ball. I don't think back about the dharma talk. > > > > Like it says in the movie by the same name: 'That was then - This is now.' > > Actually is all now. The memory of the dharma talk is a memory now, it's > > not a dharma talk now. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie3@> wrote: > >> > >> The Wikipedia article on Mindfulness: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness_(Buddhism) > >> makes a point that, at first blush, seems to run counter to Zen's > >> insistence > >> upon awareness of 'just here, just now.' In discussing the etymology and > >> history of use of the Sanskrit, Pali, and Chinese terms usually > >> translated > >> as 'mindfulness,' it stresses that they include significant reference to > >> memory, recall, recollection, and other mental faculties related to > >> awareness of the past. > >> > >> Any thoughts on how to reconcile this apparent tension? > >> > >> I have been thinking along these lines: When I hear dharma taught, I > >> grasp > >> it, according to the level of my understanding. But, when I leave the > >> dharma > >> hall, I 'should' endeavor not to leave my understanding behind. I > >> 'should' > >> endeavor to bring it forward with me, into each moment, so that it > >> informs > >> my 'in this moment' awareness of right thought, right conduct, right > >> speech., Doing so is right mindfulness of the dharma. > >> > >> Bill, you may find this issue pointless, as you do not consider zen > >> Buddhist, or the EFP a part of zen (If I understand you correctly). But, > >> for > >> those of us who are not quite so iconoclastic <grin>, do any of you have > >> any > >> thoughts/comments on my proposed reconciliation? > >> > >> Dana > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 5861 (20110210) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
