ED:  I think most if not all of us in the Zen Forum are grateful to the
moderators, Bill and Edgar, for creating a space for expressing
alternative perspectives, experiences and understandings -
notwithstanding that most or all of us may feel that our own perceptions
and understandings are 'right'.



--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
>


Mayka: "Mindfulness Affirmation" comes to say that the person who is
putting into practice and having as a direct experience the meaning of
mindfulness under the different descriptive situations given.  There is
not other way of knowing,  having a real taste of mindfulness.  There is
no visualisation of any kind here but a direct experience with what is
in front of one, with what arises in the here and the now.
     ED: IMO, a person who claims complete actualization of the (printed)
affirmations in the video is deluding himself, even if he claims to have
realized Buddha Mind. In particular I am referring to highlighted
statements below. "I am open to the experience of the present moment."
"I pay attention to the psycho-social conditioning behind my actions." 
"I see my mistakes and difficulties without judging them." "I feel fully
connected to my experience in the here and now."   Mayka:  This are the
statements made by a person who is putting mindfulness into practice
right in the here and and the now and the experience that person is
having. There is no visualization or anything delusional about the
experience the person is having.  But if you don't believe me you just
have to have a go on yourself and you'll see that your experience will
be very alike.  Mindfulness is a way of living life.  The mind is
trained into mindfulness in order to reach that 24 hours of full
attention.  This is not easy for lay people and this is why one could
play mindfulness for a short time during the day to start with.   There
are instructions for that.   For a monk or nun mindfulness is like never
leave the zazen cushion and bring with one wherever one goes, activity
does.  The same is sitting down, sleeping, evacuating in the toilette,
working....       --- On Tue, 1/3/11, ED <seacrofter001@...> wrote:

From: ED <seacrofter001@...>
Subject: Re: [Zen] News: Mindfulness and death -- who wins?
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 1 March, 2011, 16:28

        Excellent video!   I view 'affirmations' as being Tantric in the
sense that one makes believe (visualizes) that one is already what one
wants to be. In Tibetan Tantra, one follows the visualization with a
short meditation in which one dissolves the visualization into
emptiness. The reason given for this is to preclude the possibility that
one may begin to actually believe the visualization to be reality and
become arrogant and conceited. IMO, a person who claims complete
actualization of the (printed) affirmations in the video is deluding
himself, even if he claims to have realized Buddha Mind. In particular I
am referring to highlighted statements below. "I am open to the
experience of the present moment." "I pay attention to the psycho-social
conditioning behind my actions."  "I see my mistakes and difficulties
without judging them." "I feel fully connected to my experience in the
here and now." --ED   --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez
<flordeloto@...> wrote:
>
Hi Edgar:   I didn't get through all the reading from your article but I
can certainly confirm out of (and in and off) practise and personal
experience of mindfulness that is one of the greatest, practical,
effective and shortcut tools given to lead one to what Bill calls
"Shi....."   And here it goes a practical video that can be of
inspiration towards mindfulness.  The song is from one of the Sisters in
the TNH tradition.  The cd is with the tittle: "A basket of Plums".  And
as for the show it was created first in the power point by one of my
friends.  Then someone else took the powerpoint show and a song from
that cd and created this straight forward to the point of mindfulness
affirmation or in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbwZ_fe623E
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbwZ_fe623E>    Thanks Edgar Mayka


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