Glad that my fragmentary post made sense. Awakened vs. awakening seems to me to reflect humanity's love of dualistic thinking.
Anyone that is saying that "Just become enlightened and all the suffering and work that is humanity near term future (at the very least) will become trivially solved" is clearly not talking about Zen. If one were to say, "sit, allow your body/mind to stop twisting itself up, see that we are all one, all changing, and fundamentally ok, and allow that belief to soak into you body so that your body/mind components are confident and able to see when action is appropriate", then perhaps that is more acceptable. Many Zen groups do sponsor outward facing activity; many more individuals who undertake training also perform actions of benefit to others; however the zen model is to make no more fuss about that than a hand adjusting the pillow for the head; of course that's what the hand does, no big deal. --Chris On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:12 AM, ED <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I like that. > > But there is 'awakening' and then there is 'awakened'. > > It's a complex business! > > Beyond words? > > > > --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > > > Perhaps it is useful to remind ourselves that "enlightenment" is a > Christian > > term and concept. The historical term associated with Zen is awakening, > > which is much less absolute and much more capture > > > > >
