Sorry, I bumped the send button too soon. So, ED, it sounds like for you a path of social service or of engaged compassion would be more appealing than a path of meditation. That seems fine.
Zen advertises itself as being of no merit, no goal, and it does indeed seem to meet that promise. If zen underwhelms you, do not pursue it. If the mere idea of the zennists doing this practise and finding something to enjoy offends you, then isn't that like the fundamentalists worrying about the good time the dancers are enjoying down town? Nothing causes massacres and cultural imperialism like getting stirred up by others wasting their life on a wrong path. On Mar 7, 2011 8:35 AM, "ED" <[email protected]> wrote: --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: > > ED, > > Why should there be something 'extra'? These no need at all. To me the transformation is significant if it enhances active compassion. Otherwise, I am underwhelmed. > Isn't breaking free of falsity and living in the truth enough? May be great for her, but of litle value to the natives around her. > Her enlightenment enlightens all of us. In fact the entire > universe (which is nothng more ... In my book that is woo-woo talk. I doubt if her enlightenment illumined her mind to the tens of million of deaths of Indian, Chinese and African native ascribable to the arrogance, exploitation and venality of her kinsfolk. To me, her enlightenment would have been of value if she had devoted the rest of her life to the physical well-being of the natives. What more would you have her do? > > Mike I have no need that she should do anything. I am grateful to her I am in a conversation with you on the value of enlightenment to humanity. ---ED > After that, of what extra benefit to humankind was her life? > --ED > --- In [email protected], mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote: > > > > I remember reading a book ... > >meditation, and many deep insights, she laughed with joy at how fun and obvious > >those previously obscure Zen koans and stories now were to her! Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it t...
