Bill; ...And yet I wish I had more faith in the practice of zazen at each moment daily activities after having experienced the stability and well being it brings to ones life. To All: I paste here a couple of links in with the term of religion description given. I never thought before in how many different ways this word is used. Different meanings of religion according to wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=religion+meaning&fulltext=1 Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion Mayka --- On Tue, 29/3/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Is Zen a religion? To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 10:18 M ayka, I agree with what your instructor taught. Your experiences are not based on faith. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > Bill; >  >  Instructor kept pointing out over and over that Buddhism was not a set of > beliefs but something to be experienced first in one and then believe. We > were also told never talk about anything that we didn't first experience in > us. That Buddhism was not a religion of faith but something based in living > experience. >  > This was the statement from the Buddha I recall to be told: > "Do not believe in anything I say, first experience it and once you > experience it, then believe". >  > Mayka > > --- On Mon, 28/3/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Is Zen a religion? > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, 28 March, 2011, 10:29 > > >  > > > > Mayka, > > As a very broad statement I consider any structured set of beliefs based on > faith as a religion. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote: > > > > Steve; > >  > > I'm under the impresion that buddhism in some Countries is regarded as a > > religion and the way it's follow is as Buddha kind of "God" and other > > Contries is more a way of living. It may be depending upo different > > schools and traditions Buddhism come from. I was educated to see > > buddhism as non religion. In fact our instructor used to tell us never > > try to convert anyone into buddhism as it wasn't a religion but a way to > > freely choose to live or not. We were also instructed to only talk > > about the dharma if someone asked a question or that person was > > interested. > >  > > It will be interesting to know what you, Bill and others consider a > > religion. > >  > > Mayka > > > > --- On Mon, 28/3/11, SteveW <eugnostos2000@> wrote: > > > > > > From: SteveW <eugnostos2000@> > > Subject: [Zen] Re: Is Zen a religion? > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Monday, 28 March, 2011, 5:15 > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > JMJM, > > > > > > In my opinion: > > > > > > US PERCEPTIONS > > > - Buddhism is considered a religion - albeit a quirky one. > > > - Zen Buddhism is considered a sect of Buddhism. > > > > > > WORLD PERCEPTION > > > - Buddhism is considered a religion. > > > - Zen Buddhism is considered a sect of Buddhism - albeit a quiky one. > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > Hi Bill! Oh, Buddhism itself can be properly regarded as a philosophy > > > rather than a religion. There is an interesting book by Stephen Batchelor > > > entitled Buddhism Without Beliefs. Mr. Batchelor received Dharma > > > transmission, if I am not mistaken, in the Korean form of Zen. > > Steve > > >
