Steve, I fundamentally disagree.
Buddhism, as well as Judiasm/Christianity/Islam, and all other religions I know about are based on the essense of zen. They are all, including Buddhism, just layers that have been built up around zen and serve to occlude the essense of zen to varying extents. I will say that Buddhism has the least occluding layers of the religions I have read about, but it still has a lot. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Steve, > Â > Yes, zen conforms to the essense of Buddhism. So, there doesn't exist > Christian zen, Judaist zen etc. Those rely on an outside savior, difficult to > be reconciled with zen. > Â > Anthony > > --- On Tue, 29/3/11, SteveW <eugnostos2000@...> wrote: > > > From: SteveW <eugnostos2000@...> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Why bother with Zazen? Better Orgyhouse > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 9:19 AM > > > Â > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > ED, > > ÃÂ > > I hope that works. > > ÃÂ > > Anthony > > > > Hi Anthony. This brings us back to the question of whether or not Zen is > > actually Buddhist, and whether or not it is a philosophical approach to > > life. I personally think that it is both. The link to the article which I > > posted demonstrates, imo, that it can be regarded as a philosophy of life. > > And the fact that people take it up in order to transcend the dukkha of > > life demonstrates that it is a Buddhist form of philosophy. Those people > > who say that Zen is just the art of living in the present moment seem to be > > dodging the question of why they took up Zen in the first place, and why > > living in the present moment is better than not living in the present > > moment. IMO. > Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
