There's no self in an unenlighted person or an englightened person. There's just never a self. Zen is not about getting rid of a self. There's not a self to get rid of. You don't even need to get rid of the thoughts whose contents are an imagination of a self - just know that the imagination is imagination.
--Chris On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Steve, > > > Anthony, when are you going to let go of being annoyed with everybody and > everything? > Steve > > Where and when did you see me annoyed? > > However, I should have the right to be amused. That is the advantage of > being a man of low intelligence. > > > Anthony > > --- On *Wed, 6/4/11, SteveW <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: SteveW <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Why bother with Zazen? Better a Roulette > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, 6 April, 2011, 7:42 AM > > > > > > > --- In > [email protected]<http://mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, > Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > > > Steve, > > > > You say, ' There is no "you" to be either punished or rewarded.' > > > > It makes sense to say that a completely enlightened being has no 'you'. > How do you know who is? Test it by pricking your thigh with a needle. If you > feel annoyed, the 'you' is still there. > > > > Are you completely enlightened? If so, I will add a name to my demon's > protection list. > > > > Anthony > > > > Anthony, when are you going to let go of being annoyed with everybody and > everything? > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
