Steve, You seriously misunderstand me. I won't harm anybody. That does not mean I fear punishment immediately. But it will come one day and in some form, unless I am a Buddha. But then a buddha does not harm anybody either. In other word, if you think you have to work hard to eliminate kelesha, we are in agreement. But if you think kelesha can be done with in a coffeeshop, we had better shut down this forum. Anthony
--- On Tue, 5/4/11, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote: From: SteveW <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Why bother with Zazen? Better a Roulette To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 5 April, 2011, 5:18 AM --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Steve, > Â > At least I understand 90% of what you mean. if the world consists of only > (global) mind, and nothing else, karma does not work. I don't like the > possible result of our freedom to commit felonies. Or the lazy conclusion of > kelesha is the same as bodhi. > Â > Anthony > > Anthony, if you truly felt yourself to be One with others, why would you harm > anyone? If determinism were true, you could not change. If determinism were > true, you would just follow your determined nature, for good or for ill. IMO, > you seriously misunderstand Gotama. Your view of karma is more like Gotama's > opponent Gosala! Do you not read me saying over and over that every day I > work to eliminate Kleshas? Who do you think is really working to eliminate > Kleshas? IMO, Buddha is playing Hide-And-Seek with Buddha! Buddha is Free, > but sometimes forgets this, only to remember it again! IMO. Steve > >
