Bill: We may be touching the same kind of reality because most of times I read you, it resonates in harmony with the heart of zen. And feel in that an enormous reassurance and support in my own personal whereabouts. You're so right as there is no any kind of practise between us when we talk or read from each other, but just an exchange of reciprocated sharing. Never found a practitioner, a friend, a natural zen Teacher to me, like you anywhere in the world. A bow to you! Mayka
--- On Mon, 25/7/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen elements? To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 25 July, 2011, 2:34 Mayka, Thanks for your excellent definition of 'preaching'. I agree with it. In that sense I do not beleive zen teachers 'preach'. If they do they've lost the immediateness and sponteneiety that characterizes zen. I do suspect many Buddhist teachers preach. Chrisitians, Jews and Muslims preach a lot. IMO. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > ED and Bill; >  > The word "Preaching" sounds to me as a monotonous repetitive lethany of > religious catechisms.  There are times in which we all "preach" which > means that what we say is not alive in us at the moment of being expressed > out. We only repeat what we heard or even maybe occasionally have > experienced. But that is not alive in us at the present moment of > talking. Then, there are other times in which the receiver has a complex > with "preaching" and as a result of that mental formation,  everything > he/she hears is received as preaching. >  > Mayka >  >  > --- On Sun, 24/7/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen elements? > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 24 July, 2011, 9:03 > > >  > > > > ED, > > I had to look up the word 'sententious'. Merriam-Webster Online defines it as: > a: given to or abounding in aphoristic expression > b: given to or abounding in excessive moralizing > > Then I had to look up 'aphoristic'. Merriam-Webster Online defines it as: > a: a concise statement of a principle > b: terse formulation of a truth or sentiment > > With those definitions in mind I'd say: > - zen defnitely favors aphorisitic expressions but does absolutely no > moralizing > - Christianity favors aphorisitic experssions and defintitely likes to > moralize. > > So my answer to your question below is, "No, not entirely." > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it the case that sententious preaching, rational and/or non-rational, > > is an element that Zen and Christianity tend to hold in common? > > >
