Thank you Anthony, ED and Bill for your all posting.. I re-write parts of the conversation in order to follow better the thread of this conversation and colour over the names to facilitate the reading of dialogues. Responses from this post are written in pink. Mayka - 1 - Does zen looks for the causes of suffering as Buddhism does?. Bill - Zen is not a religion so is not specifically concerned with such things as suffering. Suffering is maya (illusion) so is swept away with all illusion when Buddha Nature is realized. Mayka - When Buddha Nature manifests itself like a night in/off bright sparkling star appearing and disappearing, a) Does it mean that in/off movement between illusion and reality that one has not realised Buddha Nature yet?. b) Does the realisation of Buddha Nature involves a permanent awakening state or it can dynamic and be covered up by in/off mist, clouds, sunshine....? ---------------------------------------------- Mayka- 3 - Explain different ways of expressing anger out without having the negative consequences of doing so. Bill - You could yell 'mierda!', or hit the floor, or stamp your feet, etc... In other words you could express your anger (or happiness, or love, etc...) however you feel like expressing it. Just let the expression come naturally. As long as the expression is a true expression and done without a concept of self - that is done without it being a projection of your self . Mayka - How will I know when that expression has the concept of self or not on it?.
Bill- I'm not sure what you mean when you say 'negative consequences' so I can't answer that part of the question. Mayka - A plain imaginative situation: For instance say that I say something very offencive to you out of anger and as a consequence of that you decide not to be friends with me anymore. Wouldn't matter how well I tried to explain to you afterwards that I didn't mean etc, you still refuse my explanation. So you punish me by taking away your friendship with you. --- On Fri, 19/8/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 19 August, 2011, 10:08 Mayka, My responses are embedded in the copy of your post below and are subject to the following disclaimer: Not Zen Advice or an Offer of Instruction This information is intended to assist those interested in zen. The information does not constitute zen advice or an offer to instruct or to provide zen services and is subject to correction, completion and amendment without notice. Any such offer, if made, will only be made by means of a confidential prospectus or offering memorandum or teacher/student agreement. It is not our intention to state, indicate or imply in any manner that current or past results are indicative of future results or expectations. As with all zen practice, there are associated risks and you could be just wasting your time. Prior to making any commitment to practice zen, a prospective practitioner should consult with its own life-style, medical, psychological and spiritual advisers to evaluate independently the risks, consequences and suitability of zen practice. --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > The questions below have arising in me. I should be grateful for any of you > honest feedback based in personal experience with zen. > > 2- If one has noticed of having expectations, does one has to look deeply and > search where that or those expectations were originated, come from, its > roots...as Buddhism does?. Again, zen is not a religion so is not specifically concerned with such things as expectations. Expectations are maya (illusions) and are swept away with all illusions when Buddha Nature is realized. There is only one source of expectations (and of suffering you mention above) and that is the illusion of self. When you realize Buddha Nature the illusory concept of self will be seen for what it is - an illusion - and all attachments to it (such as expectations) will be disolved. > 3 - Explain different ways of expressing anger out without having the > negative consequences of doing so. You could yell 'mierda!', or hit the floor, or stamp your feet, etc... In other words you could express your anger (or happiness, or love, etc...) however you feel like expressing it. Just let the expression come naturally. As long as the expression is a true expression and done without a concept of self - that is done without it being a projection of your self . I'm not sure what you mean when you say 'negative consequences' so I can't answer that part of the question. Hope these help...Bill! > Mayka >
