Bill: I did think about to write this one too. At this time, You say dog and I say, woof woof! Mayka
--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] An example of Absolute Emptiness To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 4:00 The teaching from Jesus about this is: Matthew 6:3 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing..." ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > JMJM; > Just giving different perspectives of the theme giving away. >  > If the giving away is out of a notion then the giving away will be in the > self. If the giving away is in the self then that given away is not a > real giving away but a giving away with a purpose, the purpose of feeling > good about ourselves. We think that we do that giving away for others but > that is not true,  we do that for the pleasure we get out through that > giving away. > Mayka >  >  > --- On Tue, 23/8/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote: > > > From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> > Subject: Re: [Zen] An example of Absolute Emptiness > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 15:47 > > >  > > > > Hi Mayka, > > Not sure you are making a statement or a question. > > It is wonderful for us to give. Just initiating the notion of giving > without being told is respectable. At the least, it is so written in Bibles > and taught by many. > > If we dig deeper into this notion, there are two kinds of notions. One is > produce through the reaction to all the forms of our conscious mind, the > other is pure heart detached from all forms. > > Feeling deceived is because we still have an ego, an conscious mind. When > the notions is from our heart, it is pure. Pure compassion. > > This is what Vilamakirti is talking about. > > Thank you for responding. > jm > Learn the Basics of Chan Meditation... > http://www.chan-meditation.org > Chan in everyday life... > http://www.chanliving.org > To be enlightened in this life... > http://www.heartchan.org > To save our world... > http://www.universal-oneness.org > > > On 8/23/2011 6:23 AM, Maria Lopez wrote: >  > > > > > > > JMJM; > We often give away because that makes us feel good about ourselves. This is > a kind of giving away based in self. And so when the experience turns out > unpleasant then we feel as we were deceived. But no one told us to give > away in the first place!. > Mayka >  >  > --- On Mon, 22/8/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote: > > > From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> > Subject: [Zen] An example of Absolute Emptiness > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Date: Monday, 22 August, 2011, 17:50 > > >  > > In chapter V of Vimalakirti sutra, he talked about absolute emptiness. I > shall translate from Chinese for your reference, the English I use more than > likely will not match your search result online..... > > Why do we often feeling "tired" or "disgusted" on our journey of ferrying > others with kindness and good intentions? If you do, please read on... > > It is so because our compassion in our hearts derives from form and not arise > from within. In other words, we feeling tired is because our compassion is > from our mind and not from our heart. > > A consciousness-based compassion is based on form, logic, give and take, > balance, purpose and objective. This kind of compassion has a purpose and > result oriented, otherwise it can not balance itself. > > The compassion rises from our hearts are pure giving. Our heart syncs with > the hearts of others, and "knowing" that we are all deluded by our mind and > not "seeing" that everything is just endless illusions of cause and effect. > Our hearts are one of the same. > > Upon this "synchronization" of hearts, our mind would quiet. We would be able > to function with joy and dedication, continuously, effortlessly, naturally > and instinctively, with our pure heart. > > Thank you for your time, > JMJM > Head Teacher > Order of Chan > -- > Learn the Basics of Chan Meditation... > http://www.chan-meditation.org > Chan in everyday life... > http://www.chanliving.org > To be enlightened in this life... > http://www.heartchan.org > To save our world... > http://www.universal-oneness.org >
