Anthony: What do you mean?. Ok, I paste Bill response and so you have both responses in the same thread post: "Mozart had a good agent..." No need to choose and you can have both! Mayka
--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 22:36 Mayka, Please refer to Bill's answer as an enlightened remark. Anthony --- On Wed, 24/8/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 8:04 PM Anthony: Manifested conditions were appropiate for Mozart being able to play at 5 years old. Mayka --- On Wed, 24/8/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 0:30 Mayka, That was possible. However, it was also possible that came from their karma from previous lives. Otherwise, why do you think Mazart was able to compose music at the age of 5? Anthony --- On Wed, 24/8/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 6:02 AM Perhaps the roots of their doings could be found in their childhood. --- On Tue, 23/8/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 22:51 Mayka, Bad guys? Too many to enumerate: Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim Chong Il.. and last but not least, Anthony Wu. Anthony --- On Tue, 23/8/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 9:02 PM Anthony: I wouldn't know either how to make medicines and ointments from poison plants and yet some know how to do that. Which bad guys are you referring to in your post?. Mayka --- On Mon, 22/8/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 22 August, 2011, 22:52 Mayka, Nature provides us with anger as well as compassion. Plant poison can be used for our benefit, but I don't see anger can be utilized in any good way. In Christianity, good and bad people are both created by God. How do we treat bad guys? Anthony --- On Tue, 23/8/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 1:49 AM Anthony: Nature is wise but the mind of human beings is arrogant and think that knows better than nature. We don't like the emotion anger and then we invent a number of things to rid off it. Nature also gives plants highly poison and yet the clever ones have learnt how to use that poison to create medicines, oinments with it. Couldn't be done with anger the same?. If nature has provided us with the seed of anger there must be a reason for that. Mayka --- On Mon, 22/8/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 22 August, 2011, 14:01 ED, Yes, anger is something we must deal with correctly. It is one of the three poisons: greed, anger and delusion. So Buddha himself thinks it is important. I agree it is rooted in the sense of self. To this effect, zen practice should be able to at least lessen it, when the sense of self is reduced. Anthony --- On Mon, 22/8/11, ED <[email protected]> wrote: From: ED <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions To All List To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 22 August, 2011, 7:41 PM Anthony, There is Karma, the Law of Cause and Effect. Anger breeds anger. I am not aware of any Buddhist teaching that recommends expressing anger as a means of dealing with anger. Anger is deeply rooted in the sense of self. The self is angry when the world and especially other humans do not meet the self's expectations. Excellent brief article on Buddhism and Anger: http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/anger.htm "Don't Feed Anger It's hard not to act, to remain still and silent while our emotions are screaming at us. Anger fills us with edgy energy and makes us want to do something. Pop psychology tells us to pound our fists into pillows or to scream at the walls to "work out" our anger. Thich Nhat Hanh disagrees. "When you express your anger you think that you are getting anger out of your system, but that's not true," he said. "When you express your anger, either verbally or with physical violence, you are feeding the seed of anger, and it becomes stronger in you." Only understanding and compassion can neutralize anger." --ED --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > ED, > > Once you eat your cake, you digest it into your body parts, and will be 'one > with it'. I don't see why it is impossible. > > Anthony > Anthony, > > I think Mayka is asking: How can I eat my cake and have it too. > > --ED > > ED, > > > > I don't understand your reasoning. 'Negative consequences' of course > are in regard to the angry person. > > > > Anthony > > Negative consequences are unlikely (except to the person > himself/herself) if the other person has mastered his/her own anger. > > --ED > > Mayka, > > > > You ask: 'Explain different ways of expressing anger out without > having the negative consequences of doing so.' > > > > I think expressing anger always has negative consequences. No way to > avoid that. > > > > Anthony
