Bill and All,
Three questions for clarification: In Zen are there any experiences of the student which a Zen Master would call 'not-maya' or 'important', or as needing to be paid attention to? If in sitting shikantaza (clear mind sitting) there is no goal, why is there any concern as to what the student experiences or does not experience? Why the discursive and judgmental prouncements of 'maya' and 'importance/unimportance' when students could be told once and for all that all experiences are jut that-experiences, that are impermanent; and therefore, whatever is experienced, the student should just keep on sitting? Thanks, ED --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > JMJM, > > When I was beginning my zen training and sitting shikantaza (clear mind) I 'witnessed' several color phenomenom. A bright white light which seem to emanate from the people sitting around me and surround them like an aura, and a golden light which enveloped me as if I were surrounded by and suspended in honey. > > In both cases my teacher at the time told me these were just 'maya' and unimportant, and told me to pay no attention to them, let them slide away and 'just sit'. > > ...Bill! > --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming jmjm@ wrote: > > > > Good morning to All, > > > > Perhaps if you would, please allow me to share with you some of the > > labels used by my Teacher to interpret the witness of Juemiao Miaoming, > > recipient of Buddha Heart Imprint. > > > > The lineage of Chan is passed on two routes, the form and the formless. > > One without the other, is incomplete. Let me explain some of the details. > > > > The lineage of Chan is passed through and in sync both in archived > > lineage chart(form) as well as the Buddha Heart Imprint(formless). > > > > As we know the conversion to Chan is to convert to Buddha, Dharma, > > Sangha (form) and the Trikaya (formless). Buddha is the Nirmanakaya. > > Dharma is the Sambhogakaya and Shangha is the Nirmanakaya. > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the three color lights, as taught by my > > Teacher, are -- Gold is the Nirmanakaya, Red is the Nirmanakaya. Green > > is the Sambhogakaya. These are also the logo of our lineage. > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the intense white light in the Heart > > Chakra is the Kensho, which does not fade away. Which I have mentioned > > off and on throughout the years that I am on this forum. > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of thousands of lights is what Buddha > > witnessed under the Bodhi tree before his enlightenment. As stated in > > our Master's Diamond Sutra DVD, these lights are not in the night sky, > > but inside our body. > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's heart felt connection of compassion and truth upon > > recipient of this transmission is what it is. > > > > I am grateful to have participated in witnessing this event and > > communicating to everyone. > > > > In short, a true transmission of Buddha Heart Imprint, from a > > non-English speaking master to a non-Chinese speaking desciple requires > > no word and only requires a single meeting of hearts. > > > > As Juemiao Miaoming said, "this is an auspicious day." > > > > Thank you for your attention. ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
