Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone
On Oct 16, 2011, at 17:38, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Chris, > > I thought the line, 'Of course, the sage arrives without travelling' said the > same thing. My point is that there are indications on the path (Ok ok, the > pathless path) of where you're 'at' and Zen *does* acknowledge them. Again, > talking in ultimates is what causes you to become a fox for 500 lives. : ) What ever. > > Mike > > From: ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2011, 6:25 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II > > > > Thanks, > Chris Austin-Lane > Sent from a cell phone > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 21:43, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Anthony, >> >> The signposts you see on a journey are not the ultimate goal, but are >> nevertheless useful for giving you an indication of where you are and at >> what stage of the journey you're at. Of course, the sage arrives without >> travelling (Lao Tzu), but for us lesser mortals.. > > There is no where to go! Forget about stages and such. > >> If tantra and Zen are at opposites, then didn't Buddha teach the Middle Way? >> >> Mike >> >> From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011, 12:59 >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II >> >> >> Mike, >> >> If you don't propose striving towards those 'signposts', you regard them as >> unimportant. I don't see what otherwise you think. >> >> Tantra manipulates those 'lights' (especially in the body) to the extremes >> and develops their peculiar systems. Zen is the opposite. Theravada may be >> in between, but I am not sure. >> >> Anthony >> >> From: mike brown <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011 9:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II >> >> >> Bill!, >> >> As you say, it was someone else who told you to ignore your experience in >> the zendo. Did that person himself experiece such 'phenonema' or were they >> also just repeating what they had been told? If you've ever experienced >> kensho (and I'm sure you have), then you'd know that this also affects the >> body/mind in a way that is not the same as 'just sitting' in our usual >> day-to-day practice. Yet kensho is not dismissed in the same way. >> Personally, I feel that such phenonema are indications that the illusionary >> obstacles we have developed in life are losing their grip on us and the >> purity of the Mind (our true state) is shining thru. As such, they are >> important signposts on the path and although it misses the point to strive >> towards them (maybe this is what your priest was wary of), it also misses >> the mark to say they are unimportant. >> >> Mike >> >> From: Bill! <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011, 10:19 >> Subject: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II >> >> >> JMJM, >> >> When I was beginning my zen training and sitting shikantaza (clear mind) I >> 'witnessed' several color phenomenom. A bright white light which seem to >> emanate from the people sitting around me and surround them like an aura, >> and a golden light which enveloped me as if I were surrounded by and >> suspended in honey. >> >> In both cases my teacher at the time told me these were just 'maya' and >> unimportant, and told me to pay no attention to them, let them slide away >> and 'just sit'. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 >> <chan.jmjm@...> wrote: >> > >> > Good morning to All, >> > >> > Perhaps if you would, please allow me to share with you some of the >> > labels used by my Teacher to interpret the witness of Juemiao Miaoming, >> > recipient of Buddha Heart Imprint. >> > >> > The lineage of Chan is passed on two routes, the form and the formless. >> > One without the other, is incomplete. Let me explain some of the details. >> > >> > The lineage of Chan is passed through and in sync both in archived >> > lineage chart(form) as well as the Buddha Heart Imprint(formless). >> > >> > As we know the conversion to Chan is to convert to Buddha, Dharma, >> > Sangha (form) and the Trikaya (formless). Buddha is the Nirmanakaya. >> > Dharma is the Sambhogakaya and Shangha is the Nirmanakaya. >> > >> > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the three color lights, as taught by my >> > Teacher, are -- Gold is the Nirmanakaya, Red is the Nirmanakaya. Green >> > is the Sambhogakaya. These are also the logo of our lineage. >> > >> > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the intense white light in the Heart >> > Chakra is the Kensho, which does not fade away. Which I have mentioned >> > off and on throughout the years that I am on this forum. >> > >> > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of thousands of lights is what Buddha >> > witnessed under the Bodhi tree before his enlightenment. As stated in >> > our Master's Diamond Sutra DVD, these lights are not in the night sky, >> > but inside our body. >> > >> > Juemiao Miaoming's heart felt connection of compassion and truth upon >> > recipient of this transmission is what it is. >> > >> > I am grateful to have participated in witnessing this event and >> > communicating to everyone. >> > >> > In short, a true transmission of Buddha Heart Imprint, from a >> > non-English speaking master to a non-Chinese speaking desciple requires >> > no word and only requires a single meeting of hearts. >> > >> > As Juemiao Miaoming said, "this is an auspicious day." >> > >> > Thank you for your attention. >> > >> > BTW, if you would like to talk to Miaoming privately, he will be most >> > delighted. Contact me and I will forward his private email. >> > >> > -- >> > To be enlightened in this life... >> > http://www.heartchan.org >> > To save our world... >> > http://www.universal-oneness.org >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
