Yep, we are always already there...

Edgar



On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:20 AM, mike brown wrote:

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> Edgar,
> 
> As long as we believe there is a path to follow, then we'll always be in our 
> own way (1st meaning).
> 
> Mike
> 
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011, 23:05
> Subject: Re: [Zen] What Your Big Brother Says
> 
>  
> Mike, et al.,
> 
> At least 3 combined meanings to that title:
> 
> First he (his individual self) gets in his own way in the sense of 
> interfering with his own progress on the path.
> 
> Second he is in his own individual path (way) towards enlightenment as is 
> everyone. He's doing it his way.
> 
> Third he is in the actual Way, the path of Tao... Since all individual paths 
> lead to the one path.
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 8:54 AM, mike brown wrote:
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>> 
>> I personally find that of all the writers on Zen (inter alia), Watts 
>> resonates the most. However, not one word he uttered or wrote will ever 
>> match the profundity of the simplest daily action performed by ourselves. 
>> "In My Own Way" indeed.
>> 
>> Mike
>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011, 22:42
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] What Your Big Brother Says
>> 
>>  
>> Everything in the universe is always exactly right as it is in the sense 
>> that it is what it is and thus could not be otherwise even as it is being 
>> changed...
>> 
>> I always liked the title of Watt's "In My Own Way" with its multiple 
>> entendres.
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:
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>>>  
>>> Quotations from Alan Watts (This Is It)
>>>  
>>> In Zen the satori experience of awakening to our ‘original inseparability’ 
>>> with the universe seems, however elusive, always just around the corner. 
>>> One has even met people to whom it has happened, and they are just like us, 
>>> and yet much more at home in the world, floating much more easily upon the 
>>> ocean of transience and insecurity.
>>>  
>>> Buddhism does not deny that there is a relatively limited sphere in which 
>>> human life may be improved by art and science, reason and good will. 
>>> However, it regards this sphere of activity as important but nonetheless 
>>> subordinate to the comparatively limitless sphere in which things are as 
>>> they are, always have been, and always will be – a sphere entirely beyond 
>>> the categories of good and evil, success and failure, and individual health 
>>> and sickness.
>>>  
>>> I find that I cannot help doing and experiencing, quite freely, what is 
>>> always ‘right’ in the sense that the stars are always in their ‘right’ 
>>> places. As Hsiang=yen put it,
>>>  
>>> There’s no use for artificial discipline,
>>> For, move as I will, I manifest the ancient Tao.
>>> 
>>> 
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