Edgar, In the case of the knocked down toddler specifically, when an 'enlightened' zen master arrives at the place, how does he 'manifest Tao'? The following might happen: 1. He will be a nineteenth passer by, as everything is as they are, there is no need for interference. 2. The love rediated from inside prompts him to rush the kid to a hospital. 3. There is uncertainty governed by the law of probability. Put all zen masters with a similar experience in a row. If the majority have taken action, the team of passing by zen masters will be expanded by one. Otherwise, the kid is more likely to be saved. 4. There is uncertainty with no laws or rules. There is no way to predict which way the Buddha nature of the zen master will direct him. Any other possibilities? Anthony
________________________________ From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011, 22:35 Subject: Re: [Zen] What Your Big Brother Says Yep, we are always already there... Edgar On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:20 AM, mike brown wrote: > > >Edgar, > > >As long as we believe there is a path to follow, then we'll always be in our >own way (1st meaning). > > >Mike > > > >________________________________ >From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011, 23:05 >Subject: Re: [Zen] What Your Big Brother Says > > > >Mike, et al., > > >At least 3 combined meanings to that title: > > >First he (his individual self) gets in his own way in the sense of interfering >with his own progress on the path. > > >Second he is in his own individual path (way) towards enlightenment as is >everyone. He's doing it his way. > > >Third he is in the actual Way, the path of Tao... Since all individual paths >lead to the one path. > > >Edgar > > > > > > >On Nov 24, 2011, at 8:54 AM, mike brown wrote: > > >> >> >>I personally find that of all the writers on Zen (inter alia), Watts >>resonates the most. However, not one word he uttered or wrote will ever match >>the profundity of the simplest daily action performed by ourselves. "In My >>Own Way" indeed. >> >> >> >>Mike >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011, 22:42 >>Subject: Re: [Zen] What Your Big Brother Says >> >> >> >>Everything in the universe is always exactly right as it is in the sense that >>it is what it is and thus could not be otherwise even as it is being >>changed... >> >> >>I always liked the title of Watt's "In My Own Way" with its multiple >>entendres. >> >> >>Edgar >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Anthony Wu wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>Quotations from Alan Watts (This Is It) >>> >>>In Zen the satori experience of awakening to our ‘original inseparability’ >>>with the universe seems, however elusive, always just around the corner. One >>>has even met people to whom it has happened, and they are just like us, and >>>yet much more at home in the world, floating much more easily upon the ocean >>>of transience and insecurity. >>> >>>Buddhism does not deny that there is a relatively limited sphere in which >>>human life may be improved by art and science, reason and good will. >>>However, it regards this sphere of activity as important but nonetheless >>>subordinate to the comparatively limitless sphere in which things are as >>>they are, always have been, and always will be – a sphere entirely beyond >>>the categories of good and evil, success and failure, and individual health >>>and sickness. >>> >>>I find that I cannot help doing and experiencing, quite freely, what is >>>always ‘right’ in the sense that the stars are always in their ‘right’ >>>places. As Hsiang=yen put it, >>> >>>There’s no use for artificial discipline, >>>For, move as I will, I manifest the ancient Tao. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
