:-) Thanks! On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:
> ** > > > Just THIS! > > ...Bill! > > > --- In [email protected], yonyonson@... wrote: > > > > What I understood from his description about non-duality could be put in > a > > Heraclitus fragment: > > > > GOD IS DAY AND NIGHT, WINTER AND SUMMER, > > WAR AND PEACE, SATIETY AND WANT. > > > > There are different worlds that exist in our mind, but what non-duality > > suggests to me is "this and that (even neither&both)"--all of everything > > completely. I wouldn't know, though... > > > > Gassho > > TaoSheiFei > > > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ChrisAustinLane <chris@...>wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Any one who writes about non-duality and then implies that something > > > (freedom) can extend "even to this fallen world of sin and samsara" > needs > > > to sit a bit more, in my opinion. It sounds like he thinks there is > some > > > other world than this world of sin and samsara. It reeks of duality. > > > > > > I won't comment about the wonderful things his brain has created for > him > > > to experience other than ordinary reality, other than to offer my > > > experience that sitting, while it will allow your brain to treat you to > > > such experiences, is not as efficient at that as fasting or exercise or > > > sleep deprivation. Naturally, sincein my opinion, such states are not > the > > > path of zen any more than filling with indignation when offered bad > tasting > > > food. Sure, it happens. What now! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris Austin-Lane > > > Sent from a cell phone > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:02, yonyonson@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://integrallife.com/member/ken-wilber/blog/stages-meditation-interview-ken-wilber > > > > > > i don't know enough about the Integral Institute(tm) to support or > > > criticize, but i found this after wondering what ken had been up to > these > > > days and found it very clear in describing what we may be experiencing > > > along the way. i was also curious as to others' experiences and > herstories > > > on this forum of their own meditation. > > > > > > gassho and great love to all of you > > > > > > Tao Shei Fei > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
