JM,

would be interested in those 7 principles...

Thanks,
Edgar


On Jan 13, 2012, at 11:01 AM, 覺妙精明 wrote:

> Hi Bill & Mel and All,
> 
> All the interpretation so far are close.  Let me say a bit more.
> 
> Buddha in the general term is the "universal life force and wisdom".  When 
> someone is "in sync" to it, this person is honored with the title of Buddha, 
> such as Guatama Buddha, Guanyin Buddha, etc.  
> 
> Because it is the "universal life force and wisdom", it is everywhere and in 
> everything, because it manifested all.
> 
> And this universal life force and wisdom possess certain characteristics.  Or 
> in ordinary language, it functions by following a certain set of laws.  This 
> set of principles is also called the Laws of Nature, the Nature of the 
> Universe, or Buddha Nature, or Self Nature.  Everything in the universe 
> functions according to this set of principles.  My teacher has identify seven 
> of them.  If you are interested, I can share with you.
> 
> Therefore, meditate to enhance our chi is critical to be in sync with the 
> universal life force and wisdom.  Like a radio receiver, it requires power to 
> be sensitive.  As our energy enhances, then we can witness spiritual healing, 
> karma transfer, the TriKaya, etc., phenomena in the spiritual domain.  Then 
> we could intuitively witness our own Buddha Nature and its manifestation in 
> everyday life, without having to rely on external teachings through  
> unreliable words.  
> 
> Yes, we are able to "just get it" within ourselves.
> JM
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/13/2012 2:02 AM, Bill! wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Mel,
>> 
>> Thanks for your reply. You said a lot and I don't want to comment on every 
>> little thing, but one thing you talked about is worth a few words:
>> 
>> The word/name 'Buddha' is confusing to many because it is both the name 
>> (title actually) given to Guatama Siddartha after he became enlightened - or 
>> so the story goes. I think 'Buddha' is a title that means 'one who has 
>> awakened'. This historical person is called 'Buddha' or 'the Buddha' by 
>> many, but he was not the first or certainly only Buddha.
>> 
>> 'Buddha' is also used as a shortened version of 'Buddha Nature' or 'Buddha 
>> Mind'. You'll hear many people say things like 'everyone is a Buddha', or 
>> 'everyone has a Buddha inside him'. What they should be saying (IMO) is 
>> 'everyone has Buddha Nature' and it is just a matter of realizing or 
>> becoming aware of Buddha Nature which you already have.
>> 
>> Mel or anyone else, let me know if you understand these terms in a different 
>> way.
>> 
>> ...Bill!
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], Mel <gunnar19632000@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Bill and all
>> >  
>> > People refer to that Great All out there as 'god', and yet Taoists have 
>> > come up with TAO...and many involved with Zen in today's world have 
>> > referred to it as 'buddha'. I suppose it really depends from which 
>> > religious background the individual comes from. I have not succeeded yet 
>> > in going through the whole Bible(both Old and New, plus the Apocrypha) but 
>> > I do believe that Christians at least have enquired(judging from what I 
>> > had read so far in online scriptural discussions) whether the One and 
>> > Supreme Creator has hands, wings, feet, etc....in other words, an actual, 
>> > physical being or make. Being so, the atheist camp would then say things 
>> > such as,"If so, then Yahweh can't possibly be in more than one place at 
>> > the same time"....and yet all of the Big 3 Faiths teach their followers 
>> > that the Holy Father sees all, and knows all. This then brings the 
>> > question of....how big is God exactly? Huge to the point that he sees and 
>> > knows all? Is this about
>> > size? How is He exactly...everywhere?
>> >  
>> > Buddha. The world knows he was just a man. According to the late Zen 
>> > teacher Deshimaru-sensei, there are sources to indicate that he died from 
>> > eating poisoned food, or pork. However, we do not worship(in the religious 
>> > sense) the man who lived long ago. I personally do not know yet where the 
>> > idea of 'buddha' being the same as 'god' or 'tao' being all and one...and 
>> > the same thing. I personally accept it(minus the Yahwe part). Let me first 
>> > point out however, that my only source for the moment is Zen Mind 
>> > Beginners Mind...and TaoTeChing(trans., John H McDonald) to a very limited 
>> > extent. With Buddha, there are no arms, legs, eyes...and so forth...to 
>> > mention, and yet the late Zen teacher (Shunryu) Suzuki-sensei say that 
>> > Buddha is everywhere. One may then conclude...does Yahweh rest within 
>> > Buddha's realm? If Yahweh has an actual physical form, does He then exist 
>> > within Buddha's embrace? I personally do not know, but I can only speak of 
>> > what I believe, or
>> > what my personal interpretation(s) is
>> >  
>> > I have 2 'buddha'-like statues in my room that I bow to before and after 
>> > zazen, or when I leave. However, this bowing is no more different to me 
>> > when I bow to my meal before I eat, and afterwards. With this in mind, 
>> > there is a parallel here with the Christian and Jewish faiths(I'm lacking 
>> > on info for the moment with Islam on this one). But, these little 
>> > 'buddhas' I own are not representative of some Being out there. They are 
>> > worthy of respect because they represent something much higher and worthy 
>> > than my own dualistic desires...especially greed and attachment
>> >  
>> > Having said the above so far, is Buddha then made of air that that travels 
>> > around the planet and therefore sees and knows all, and therefore 
>> > everywhere? To me personally, Buddha has not got the actual, physical form 
>> > I had described above...and yet Buddha is everywhere. People new to Zen 
>> > will not comprehend this easily, nor will it sit easily with them if they 
>> > understand, because there are no actual descriptions, instructions, 
>> > directions of faith or worship...and so on
>> >  
>> > In Buddha's grace
>> > Mel
>> >  
>> > PS. I have mentioned the need for sincerity when it comes to Zen...or 
>> > Buddha if one prefers. What this means for the new seekers is....how badly 
>> > do you want Buddha? For my part as a Karate student, the only way I can 
>> > get through works such as...
>> >  
>> > - A Book of 5 Rings
>> > - Hagakure
>> >  
>> > ...is through Zen/Buddha. No goal, no attainment...if one must die, then 
>> > one must die. It's all about living this moment, and the next, and the 
>> > next, and the next....
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
>> > To: [email protected] 
>> > Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 6:50 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Zen] New to Group
>> > 
>> > 
>> >   
>> > Mel,
>> > 
>> > Just to get you to share a little more with us I'll respond to your post 
>> > below:
>> > 
>> > 'God' is supposed to be everywhere too, just like you said Buddha was.
>> > 
>> > So, do you think they're both (God and Buddha)in the same place 
>> > (everywhere) together? Or do you think they are the same thing? Or what?
>> > 
>> > ...Bill!
>> >
>> 
> 
> 

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