Edgar, I assume causality and cause-and-effect are the same idea, whereas karma is another idea. My other assumption is you agree with the former, while disagree with the latter. Right? anthony
________________________________ From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012, 21:43 Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen Story: Cause and effect Anthony, Causality, actual not causality but rule based evolution of forms is the law of the form world. The notion of karma is an ignorant supernatural perversion of this concept because it believes that good always begets good and bad always begets bad. That's nonsense as a general principle. There is no 'good' or 'bad' in the world of forms except relative to the desires of particular observers. So the reality is that forms evolve according to logical rules called the laws of nature but that has little or nothing to do with good and bad which are judgements by individual people. Edgar On Jan 14, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > > >Edgar, > >Not surprising. Many think karma is nonsense. However, I remember you did not >think cause and effect is nonsense. Right? > >Anthony > > > >________________________________ >From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012, 2:51 >Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen Story: Cause and effect > > > >This is why the idea of karma is total nonsense.... > > >Edgar > > > > > > >On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:20 AM, ED wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >>Zen Story: Cause and effect >>There lived an old farmer who had worked on his fields for many, many years. >>One day, his horse bolted away. His neighbors dropped in to commiserate with >>him. "What awful luck," they tut-tutted sympathetically, to which the farmer >>only replied, "We'll see." >> >>Next morning, to everyone's surprise, the horse returned, bringing with it >>three other wild horses. "How amazing is that!" they exclaimed in excitement. >>The old man replied, "We'll see." >> >>A day later, the farmer's son tried to mount one of the wild horses. He was >>thrown on the ground and broke his leg. Once more, the neighbors came by to >>express their sympathies for this stroke of bad luck. "We'll see," said the >>farmer politely. >> >>The next day, the village had some visitors – military officers who had come >>with the purpose of drafting young men into the army. They passed over the >>farmer's son, thanks to his broken leg. The neighbors patted the farmer on >>his back – how lucky he was to not have his son join the army! "We'll see," >>was all that the farmer said! >>http://www.buddhagroove.net/2010/06/zen-story-cause-and-effect.html >> >> >> >> > > > > >
