Yes... Edgar
On Jan 15, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Edgar, > > I assume causality and cause-and-effect are the same idea, whereas karma is > another idea. My other assumption is you agree with the former, while > disagree with the latter. Right? > > anthony > > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012, 21:43 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen Story: Cause and effect > > > Anthony, > > Causality, actual not causality but rule based evolution of forms is the law > of the form world. The notion of karma is an ignorant supernatural perversion > of this concept because it believes that good always begets good and bad > always begets bad. That's nonsense as a general principle. There is no 'good' > or 'bad' in the world of forms except relative to the desires of particular > observers. > > So the reality is that forms evolve according to logical rules called the > laws of nature but that has little or nothing to do with good and bad which > are judgements by individual people. > > Edgar > > > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > >> >> >> Edgar, >> >> Not surprising. Many think karma is nonsense. However, I remember you did >> not think cause and effect is nonsense. Right? >> >> Anthony >> >> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012, 2:51 >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen Story: Cause and effect >> >> >> This is why the idea of karma is total nonsense.... >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:20 AM, ED wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Zen Story: Cause and effect >>> >>> >>> There lived an old farmer who had worked on his fields for many, many >>> years. One day, his horse bolted away. His neighbors dropped in to >>> commiserate with him. "What awful luck," they tut-tutted sympathetically, >>> to which the farmer only replied, "We'll see." >>> >>> Next morning, to everyone's surprise, the horse returned, bringing with it >>> three other wild horses. "How amazing is that!" they exclaimed in >>> excitement. The old man replied, "We'll see." >>> >>> A day later, the farmer's son tried to mount one of the wild horses. He was >>> thrown on the ground and broke his leg. Once more, the neighbors came by to >>> express their sympathies for this stroke of bad luck. "We'll see," said the >>> farmer politely. >>> >>> The next day, the village had some visitors – military officers who had >>> come with the purpose of drafting young men into the army. They passed over >>> the farmer's son, thanks to his broken leg. The neighbors patted the farmer >>> on his back – how lucky he was to not have his son join the army! "We'll >>> see," was all that the farmer said! >>> http://www.buddhagroove.net/2010/06/zen-story-cause-and-effect.html >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
