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On Jan 26, 2012, at 15:09, "rewrisk" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dont bother unless you are going to speak of what you yourself know. Fair enough. Here's one: the ideas of "self" and "others" are among the main ideas to be seen through as arbitrary mental constructs. Believing myself to be this way or that way screws up almost any of my moments. I think I am afraid of certain situations, as so I let myself off the hook for acting appropriately in those situations. I think about some past insult and miss the parking space and bump some car door instead. Thinking of others as different from myself, clinging to my past emotions, instead of responding to the current situation,I fail to comfort the fallen, or to rejoice with the happy, to laugh with the merry. > Zen flesh zen bones is far from my favourite book on zen but probably the > most usefull that I encounterred in the time I was searching. I could look at > any page and see words spoken by someone who knew. There would be a short > description by the author reflecting a similar awareness. It was not such an > entertaining book to read but it was very usefull. I think I have read that one yet. I have just started reading Dogen's Genjo Koan: Three Commentaries, just published by Counterpoint Press. > Tell me something you know. A second item: for a student of life itself, each moment is bursting with help for the student. When I am able to put aside what I had hoped would be in the present moment, but instead look at each moment as it is, I find I almost always come away having had some important lesson laid out for me, or some useful practice for my training. > Few people escape life without learning to 'know a truth.' > Such 'truth' is usefull. I hope my writing above is more pleasing to you than my writing below. > Speak. > > --- In [email protected], ChrisAustinLane <chris@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Chris Austin-Lane >> Sent from a cell phone >> >> On Jan 25, 2012, at 21:52, "rewrisk" <rewrisk@...> wrote: >> >>> You fail to even maintain context with your argument. >> >> It again seems I have caused offense. I was making fun of the use of the >> word others, when in the context of zen, the ideas of "self" and "others" >> are among the main ideas to be seen through as arbitrary mental constructs. >> >> And my follow on statement is that as a student of life itself, each moment >> is bursting with help for the student. >> >> I could have also objected to your use of the world knowledge, as zen is not >> about gaining knowledge but attending to the world outside knowledge. >> >> Any ways, I was just trying to play around with words, I had the wrong idea >> you'd enjoy that sort of thing, with your background in the dark Zendo, but >> I see I was wrong. I will stick to more conventional essay format in >> replying. >> >>> --- In [email protected], ChrisAustinLane <chris@> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2012, at 21:22, "rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> So you think knowledge learnt from others is essential to the search for >>>>> enlightenment? >>>> >>>> Others? >>>> >>>> From some perspectives, everything experienced is teaching. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Chris Austin-Lane >>>> Sent from a cell phone >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >>> reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
