Yeh Iv'e read that stuff before and the people who originally spoke it certainly 'knew something.' Be it no 'thing' at all.
--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > On 1/27/2012 3:10 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > Rewisk, > > > > The word that I would use to describe what I think you're referring to > > is just 'experience'. That's the word I use anyway. > > > > 'Experience' implies awareness but does not necessarily imply > > understanding. > > > > I continue to disagree with your assertion that 'understanding' is > > important, or even possible for that matter. I again will state that > > 'understanding' has nothing whatsoever to do with zen practice except > > to act as an encumbrance. > > > > This is my experience. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > "Don't know." (has nothing to do with the personally perceived lack of > "I don't know") > > Experiences and experiencers, aspects arising in present awareness as > Experiencing.... > > I use all the words like Enlightenment, Awareness, Experiencing and such > as verbs. Describing an ongoing realization/relation rather than an > event/attainment. I favor "Experiencing" or a slightly more redundant > (aka - pointing with two fingers) "Present Experiencing" lately as even > a simple word like Awareness has a lot of baggage for most people - and > is easily conceptualized in a a separate state of awareness, my > awareness, etc. > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
