Kris,

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.  Inside of a dog it's too 
dark to read." -- Groucho Marx said that.

Somebody wrote something about "outside of a temple"... .

Your "Not-knowing" -- or was that Mike's? -- is *different* from not 
experiencing, not Realizing.

And if you work with a teacher, then you'd better well be able to EXPRESS, too.

The "Don't-Know-MIND" is not a pass for truancy, and should NOT be transformed 
into a MENTALITY.  Get thee to a Nunnery!  (err-r, monastery; or, cave of a 
Master teacher).  A zendo.  It's the only safe place to practice intensively.  
Danger; Danger!

Kris, we know you have the fundamentals, whether you claim to know them or not. 
 But I wonder about the intensive practice, which enables Realization.  I think 
not, but you can tell us.  This human endowment of ours is extremely rich, but 
some jewels are deeply covered and worth everything to expose to the light of 
the great sky again.  I don't think you are neglecting this project, really, 
but I'd say that intensive work will enable the thick skin to exfoliate faster 
than it inevitably regrows. 

There's a time-tempo in this which must be struck, and only we ourselves can 
find it.  Just a note, now!

I know you'll reject and rationalize these concerns of mine and do so 
skilfully, but understand that these are the concerns and utterances of a 
friend, bitten by Impermanence, blessed with good luck, and shared reluctantly 
and sparingly.  

--J

PS  For Mike, by the way, who looked for religious teachings that are humorous, 
well, I know of collections of Jewish stories, and collections of Sufi stories. 
 They all show Wisdom, as well as gut-busting belly-laugh potential.  Also, try 
Groucho Marx.  ;-)

> Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
> 
> "Don't know" - is to me perhaps the essence of Zen teaching - and it 
> permeates all I read and hear.  Advaita says 'Neti, neti...' Neither are 
> negations.
> 
> > Mike Brown wrote:
> >
> > It's difficult, if not impossible, to find religious work that can 
> > actually make you burst out laughing (Not including the American 
> > Christian Right - but for all the wrong reasons).




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