A fair addition, though perhaps redundant as the line did not exclude
this - as that sort of expression would be part of someone's presumed
practices.
Friends don't preach to friends, and even if they did, friends don't
hear friendly words as preaching.
KG
On 8/13/2012 2:59 PM, mike brown wrote:
Nor preach against them.
Mike
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*From:* Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Monday, 13 August 2012, 19:18
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Joko Beck quote
And so much easier for all, when we don't preach our practices.
KG
On 8/11/2012 5:11 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
And sometimes we don't all practise what we preach and fall by the
way site.."needing a little help from our friends"...to climb to
up..merle
Easier said than done, but then that's why we're all here and on the
email list.
Bill
Find what makes your heart sing…and do it!
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*From:* Edgar Owen <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sat, August 11, 2012 12:57:17 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Joko Beck quote
ED,
Big deal. It's impossible to NOT be right here in the moment.
Everyone is already enlightened. It's just a matter of realizing you
are already enlightened.
Edgar
On Aug 11, 2012, at 12:25 PM, ED wrote:
"Her second book, /Nothing Special/, is, as Maezumi himself once
remarked, very special.
In it Joko expresses what is the original essence of
Zen—unencumbered by some of the formal practices and activities
we've come to associate with Zen practice over the years.
For Joko, Zen is simply being right here in the moment, with nothing
extra. Zen practice will yield us nothing other than this moment.
In the book she answers her students questions and helps highlight,
again, what Zen practice is really about. She says, "Practice has to
be a process of endless disappointment. We have to see that
everything we demand (and even get) eventually disappoints us. This
discovery is our teacher.""
Source:
http://sweepingzen.com/charlotte-joko-beck-dies-at-94-american-zen-pioneer
--- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> <mailto:chris@...> wrote:
>
> I saw this quote on Facebok and though of our lengthly debate
between our
> variously awoken folks who cannot stop annoying and being annoyed
by each
> others garbage. May all be well.
>
> Perhaps we can understand sometimes people like Vipassana and
sometimes
> people like a pathless cessation?
>
> Though it has been very interesting to read it all.
>
> Life always gives us
> exactly the teacher we need
> at every moment.
> This includes every mosquito,
> every misfortune,
> every red light,
> every traffic jam,
> every obnoxious supervisor (or employee),
> every illness, every loss,
> every moment of joy or depression,
> every addiction,
> every piece of garbage,
> every breath.
> Every moment is the guru.
> Charlotte Joko Beck
>
> (also sent from a phone, gratefully)
