The very question that set Dogen travelling to China. Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone
On Aug 11, 2012, at 14:30, Edgar Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Why practice? Why not just do it? No need to practice what is already > happening no matter what.... > > Edgar > > > > On Aug 11, 2012, at 3:31 PM, ED wrote: > >> >> >> Edgar, >> >> What caught my attention was the shockingly direct statements: >> >> "Practice has to be a process of endless disappointment. We have to see that >> everything we demand (and even get) eventually disappoints us."" >> >> --ED >> >> >> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >> > >> ED, >> >> >> Big deal. It's impossible to NOT be right here in the moment. Everyone is >> already enlightened. It's just a matter of realizing you are already >> enlightened. >> >> Edgar >> >> >> On Aug 11, 2012, at 12:25 PM, ED wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "Her second book, Nothing Special, is, as Maezumi himself once remarked, >>> very special. >>> >>> In it Joko expresses what is the original essence of Zen—unencumbered by >>> some of the formal practices and activities we've come to associate with >>> Zen practice over the years. >>> >>> For Joko, Zen is simply being right here in the moment, with nothing extra. >>> Zen practice will yield us nothing other than this moment. >>> >>> In the book she answers her students questions and helps highlight, again, >>> what Zen practice is really about. She says, "Practice has to be a process >>> of endless disappointment. We have to see that everything we demand (and >>> even get) eventually disappoints us. This discovery is our teacher."" >>> >>> Source: >>> http://sweepingzen.com/charlotte-joko-beck-dies-at-94-american-zen-pioneer >>> >>> >>> --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: >>> > >>> > I saw this quote on Facebok and though of our lengthly debate between our >>> > variously awoken folks who cannot stop annoying and being annoyed by each >>> > others garbage. May all be well. >>> > >>> > Perhaps we can understand sometimes people like Vipassana and sometimes >>> > people like a pathless cessation? >>> > >>> > Though it has been very interesting to read it all. >>> > >>> > Life always gives us >>> > exactly the teacher we need >>> > at every moment. >>> > This includes every mosquito, >>> > every misfortune, >>> > every red light, >>> > every traffic jam, >>> > every obnoxious supervisor (or employee), >>> > every illness, every loss, >>> > every moment of joy or depression, >>> > every addiction, >>> > every piece of garbage, >>> > every breath. >>> > Every moment is the guru. >>> >>> > Charlotte Joko Beck >>> > >>> > (also sent from a phone, gratefully) >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >
