I loved the line in Little Miss Sunshine where the granpa says that if you use heroin when you're young then you're a fool. But if you don't use it when you're in you 70s then you're an idiot. I think there's some truth in those words in that any substance per se is not good/bad, addictive/non-addictive etc. I know heroin use would have completely fucked me up if I'd used it in my 20s or 30s, but I imagine in my older years I'd be a lot wiser and have less trauma going on in my life to mess me up. Why not?
Mike ________________________________ From: Merle Lester <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2012, 9:03 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Binaural meditation heroin.... it is highly addictive...so anything that is like that best to avoid..get high on life bill ..merle Anthony, I have never tried heroine. I did try cocaine once when I was about 25. It was so good that I knew I could never, ever use it again without being in serious jeopardy of addition. The couple friends I have that have tried heroine say it's indescribably wonderful. Another thing to stay away from. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Mike, >  > Don' t do heroine. You will find it more addictive than your girl friend. >  > Anthony > > > ________________________________ > From: mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012, 18:06 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Binaural meditation > > >  > Merle, > > Whilst I do occasionally smoke a little weed, I do so for reasons other than > seeking enlightenment. I don't find this any different from someone else > enjoying a glass of wine or strong coffee. It also seems to enhance my > perceptions when listening to music or watching an interesting documentary > etc. There's no dependency on it whatsoever and I can go months and months > without smoking at all. I haven't taken anything stronger for at least 9 or > 10 years, and even then it was just recreational. I do still enjoy the odd VB > now and again with my barbied snaggers and chook. > > Mike > > > ________________________________ > From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012, 4:22 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Binaural meditation > > >  > > >  on your advice mike do not use any man made drugs.." let thy body heal thy > self" >  it all depends on "readiness to embrace" >  you can" lead the horse to water.".but you cannot enlighten..if ...... the > wolf > > >  > Each to his/her own, I guess, but I think one of the factors that makes the > impact of entering into samadhi/satori (and the like) such a profound > experience is that it comes from within us without any artificial aids. It's > like the difference between a mystical experience induced by drugs compared > to one that comes to us by 'grace'. After any such 'natural' supramundane > experience, there is a deepening of faith in the words/teachings of those who > have gone before us. Any artificially induced experience seems shallow in > comparison, IMO. > > Mike > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012, 0:33 > Subject: [Zen] Re: Binaural meditation > > >  > Bill, > > Yes, "it's a 'maybe', for sure!" ;-) > > But I suspect for sure that there is something there. Otherwise, the CIA > would not have funded the research and development at the Monroe Institute. > > Despite this, or because of it, I feel rebuffed or repelled from approaching > closer. ;-) > > --Joe > > PS The idea that brain waves, and a person, benefit from synching to some > particular frequency is a theory not confirmed by Buddhism (where in the > Sutras do we find it?). What is the benefit? Does it have to do with > Awakening? It has no paper trail, nor oral-tradition trail. Its origins are > secret, in the CIA. Ouch. > > > William Rintala <brintala@> wrote: > > > > I stand corrected but I think that you get the gist of it. > > >but if Theta > > waves produced by the brain induce Deep Meditative states then maybe there > > is > > something there. >
