Bill, I've had a lot of practice trying to follow Edgar's posts. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it sooner or later.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@...> wrote: > > Thank you for that Edgar. I can follow your emails better if you give them > to > me a teaspoon at a time, unlike Bill! who seems to follow what you say with > ease. > >  Bill not Bill! > > > > > Find what makes your heart singâ¦and do it! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, September 1, 2012 6:36:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > >  > Joe and Merle, > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without which you imagine > you > are incomplete.... > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential aspect of > realization... > > Wham! > > Edgar > > > > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Joe wrote: > >  > >Hiya, Merle, > > > >Nonetheless, practice formally if you are able. > > > >If you are not able, then find some way to do it. ;-) > > > >It's as important as that. Life is a little bit short, nowadays. > > > >If you report-back that it is all B.S., then we'll understand that it is so, > >for > >you... once you have given it your ALL, with a good teacher, and sangha. > > > >But I think you'll have a more positive experience, and report. > > > >In fact, I worry that you may develop attachments, especially in the realm, > >or > >area, of the Optical-sense. But when I see the paintings that afterwards > >result, > >coming from your studio, THAT will assuage my concerns, probably, and bath > >me in > >balm, I am sure. And this is what I look forward to. > > > >Yet, it's not selfishness, on my part. > > > >And, I am not attached to the possibility. But I have hopes that EVERYONE > >who > >wishes to practice under the best conditions may have their wish, and will > >awaken. Not just because I have done it, and have had the wonder and miracle > >of > >this chance a number of times, as many of us have, in company with so many > >others throughout History, and among our intimate acquaintances: but, > >because so > >many others have *not*. > > > >I know what I'm wishing you, and others, I mean. > > > >Otherwise... may the veiled-life suffice! One can't disparage where we are. > >One > >can only either realize, or not realize. Realize means realizing where we > >are > >already, but being the most clear about it. That's not a movement to > >somewhere > >else, but it is a very, very big step, as momentous as the late Neil > >Armstrong's. Will you trust me, about this, in this? > > > >I was 17 when he and Buzz landed, and walked, and Mike Collins orbited, > >station-keeping for them. Life was different after that. I could write > >volumes > >about how. > > > >Maybe I'm a relic. Maybe, someday, to be appreciated. ;-) > > > >--Joe > > > >> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > >> ..am i on track.????? > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
