Bill, Imagining things thinking they are real and actual is not zen. Knowing you are imagining things is zen...
Edgar On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:49 AM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > No it didn't violate my mental model. It seemed to concur. You wrote: > "Imagining things is not Zen, it's illusion...". > > That seems to imply that 'illusions' (whatever that means to you) is not Zen > (whatever that means to you). > > I know what all this means to me, and what you said FOR ME implies that > 'illusions' are not 'zen'. > > So, what's up? What did you mean? > > Thanks...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > Yes, I did post it. Did it violate one of your mental model Zen tenants? > > :-) > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > You didn't actually just post this did you? > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > KG, > > > > > > > > Imagining things is not Zen, it's illusion... > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A lovely idea, but ultimately it doesn't matter. We can however make > > > > > it appear to matter, by forming such lovely ideas. > > > > > > > > > > Sort of goes along with the line at the end of you posts. > > > > > > > > > > It's a very literal and yet fun definition of 'infinity', one I used > > > > > to think about a lot as a kid. Imagining an infinite Universe wherein > > > > > everything you could ever imaging existed. Then, among those infinite > > > > > possibilities, I imagined the Universe was imagining me - and so we > > > > > each other - instantly realizing this reciprocity was an illusory > > > > > redundancy, like time & space... > > > > > > > > > > Now back to your regularly scheduled programming... > > > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > > > http://youtu.be/3d39ML2D0z0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/2012 5:29 PM, William Rintala wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> I like the idea that at every moment all possibilities exist and > > > > >> that by extension every moment gives birth to an infinity of > > > > >> possibilities. Some people say that all possibilities do exist. That > > > > >> the cat is both alive and dead at the same time. > > > > >> > > > > >> Bill not Bill! > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> From: billsmart <BillSmart@> > > > > >> To: [email protected] > > > > >> Sent: Sun, September 9, 2012 4:28:12 AM > > > > >> Subject: [Zen] The 'Model' of Physicality... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Of course this guy couldn't even tell a live cat from a dead one > > > > >> without peeking... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
